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This is a high speed fat tire electric bike that feels closer to a motorcycle than a normal ebike, with 9000 watts and claims of 55 mph. The big draw is strong acceleration and hill climbing, plus hydraulic Logan 180 mm four piston brakes, 6061 aluminum construction, LED lights, and a large 52V 30Ah battery. Real world range appears closer to about 22 to 25 miles with hard riding, and the charger fully tops up in just over four hours. Main concerns are safety at speed, possible street legality and UL certification issues, and whether the battery can sustain top speed for long.
Riders wanting motorcycle-like acceleration for hills and quick launches, because extra power improves climbing and the brakes can lock both wheels.
Trail riders who want a fat-tire bike with a long-lasting battery, because the chassis is stable and one charge can cover about 22 to 25 miles with hard use.
The bike is reported to use Logan hydraulic 4-piston brakes with 180mm rotors, and they can lock both wheels. Even so, tire grip becomes the limiting factor at high speed, so wider or better tires can matter more for stopping distance.
It is reported not to be UL certified despite the listing claim, and it is also not street legal in many places. Some municipalities are cracking down on high-power e-bikes, so registration and local rules matter.
At 9000W and 55 mph, it is closer to motorcycle territory than a typical ebike. The high speed and power also raise street-legal and safety concerns in many municipalities.
A real-world estimate is about 22-25 miles with lots of high-speed riding and little pedaling. At top-speed use, the battery may not sustain 50-55 mph for long.
First time I rode an e-bike was 6 or 7 years ago. 16 to 22mph felt crazy fast. Of course the eb7 pro feels fast at 40+, but it is super stable and the brakes are rock solid. Like I said - it will fully lock up both front and rear tires.
so.... 12hp & 55mph and I don't see a brake disk big enough to matter.
There is a reason motorcycles are more expensive than this hybridized bit of insanity: they have to pass some basic safety standards.
Enjoy your death traps. Stay off the roads and side walks so you don't take any innocent people with you.
This is just an absurdly dangerous contraption (and I've gone over 60mph on a skinny tired, rim brake road bike). Throw the biggest motor possible on a sub Wal-Mart franken-cruiser, add the lowest grade...everything, and enjoy trying to stay alive. Minor design/build flaws are not great, but seldom catastrophic at self-powered speeds. At high speed......good luck.
Brakes - Logan Hydraulic 4 piston 180mm rotors will lock up the wheels. Your issue is not clamping power any more, the only way to reduce braking distance is with anti-lock brakes or a wider tire. Because these are hydraulic, your hand strength is not an issue. My 4'10" wife can lock hers up.
Chassis - Made of 6061 aluminum (not Huffy crap-steel). Lower weight and higher tensile strength - around 45,000psi. Look it up, I did. The welds are incredible on all of my e-bikes and Ive never heard of or had a failure after 4,000 miles on multiple bikes and trails.
LED lights - If you are brave/dumb enough to ride at night you can see and be seen.
Shimano Derailleurs - Bullet proof. I've never had an issue with one even after 2,300 miles on the same gear set. New chain at 1,700 miles, but cassette was great.
Motors /Batteries - Again after 1,000's of miles I've never had an issue failure nor have any of my friends. I am the only one that lost a motor. Internal gear stripped after 2,300 miles on the rear motor only. Front is still going strong.
Riding a bike is full of dangers, as is getting out of bed. Riding an e-bike has the very same dangers that riding a bike does. The difference is the rider. Play stupid games…….well? Ride like a responsible adult and you may just enjoy yourself for thousands of miles on trails you otherwise wouldn't be able to ride.
Hope that helps those honestly considering an e-bike. Those cowering in fear that have never owned or ridden one will still find a way to fear monger.
so.... 12hp & 55mph and I don't see a brake disk big enough to matter. There is a reason motorcycles are more expensive than this hybridized bit of insanity: they have to pass some basic safety standards.Enjoy your death traps. Stay off the roads and side walks so you don't take any innocent people with you.
This doesn't have the weight of a motorcycle, it has a fraction of the inertia.
Just FYI, this bike is not UL certified even though they claim it is https://productiq.ulprospector.co...erm=EbyccoIt's also not street legal and lots of municipalities are cracking down on illegal ebikes.
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The maximum motorized speed for moped or scooter in every state I have ever checked in <=35mph. This is full motorcycle.
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It has a serial or factory number, which the DMV will accept
Standard registration requires motorcycle manufacturers to be part of the VIN system. Otherwise you have to go through the "custom built vehicle" registration process, which varies wildly by state.
This doesn't have the weight of a motorcycle, it has a fraction of the inertia.
Fun fact, its energy that kills people. And the mass effect on energy scales linearly while velocity scales exponentially . E=0.5 x mass x v^2
Do you know what 55mph is? Its the velocity of a free-falling object dropped from 100ft up.
20mph, the speed of universally legal class 1 ebikes, winds up with the energy from falling 13ft.
There is a 7.56x difference in energies. For a 200lb motorcycle+rider, that 55mph energy is like 1,500lbs (3/4 ton) dropped from 13ft. Whatever is under that is going to take a lot of damage.Not to mention the person on the motorcycle
Fun fact, its energy that kills people. And the mass effect on energy scales linearly while velocity scales exponentially . E=0.5 x mass x v^2Do you know what 55mph is? Its the velocity of a free-falling object dropped from 100ft up.20mph, the speed of universally legal class 1 ebikes, winds up with the energy from falling 13ft.There is a 7.56x difference in energies. For a 200lb motorcycle+rider, that 55mph energy is like 1,500lbs (3/4 ton) dropped from 13ft. Whatever is under that is going to take a lot of damage.Not to mention the person on the motorcycle
The lightest dirt bike might weigh 200lbs. The average cruising motorcycle 500-700. Add about 150 for the rider and try your math again. The dish brakes on the bike will work fine for stopping the bike, the tires you may want to upgrade cause it's the skidding at that point that makes a big difference.
Remember, we're talking about stopping power, or distance, not slamming into a wall.
Remember, we're talking about stopping power, or distance, not slamming into a wall.
Braking is only part of it. Non-trivial risk of people who think it's "just an ebike" lay it over or just hit something because they arent motorcycle-rated drivers.
Every motorcyclist I know has torn up a set of protectice gear laying down a bike. My cousin shattered his helmet when he did, fortunately it gave his lofe for his face.
The lightest dirt bike might weigh 200lbs. The average cruising motorcycle 500-700. Add about 150 for the rider and try your math again. The dish brakes on the bike will work fine for stopping the bike, the tires you may want to upgrade cause it's the skidding at that point that makes a big difference.
Remember, we're talking about stopping power, or distance, not slamming into a wall.
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you."
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This is a high speed fat tire electric bike that feels closer to a motorcycle than a normal ebike, with 9000 watts and claims of 55 mph. The big draw is strong acceleration and hill climbing, plus hydraulic Logan 180 mm four piston brakes, 6061 aluminum construction, LED lights, and a large 52V 30Ah battery. Real world range appears closer to about 22 to 25 miles with hard riding, and the charger fully tops up in just over four hours. Main concerns are safety at speed, possible street legality and UL certification issues, and whether the battery can sustain top speed for long.
The bike uses Logan hydraulic 4-piston brakes with 180mm rotors that can lock up both wheels.
The bike can deliver strong acceleration and hill climbing because extra power helps beyond top speed riding.
The charger reportedly fully charges the 58V 3A battery in just over four hours.
The bike reportedly feels super stable at higher speeds, which can help rider confidence during fast runs.
The braking setup may be inadequate for 55 mph use because the brake disk size is questioned at that speed.
The bike is reportedly not UL certified even though the listing claims certification.
The bike is reportedly not street legal in some municipalities, which can create registration and compliance issues.
The bike reportedly has limited real-world range, with about 22 miles after riding from 5 to 1 bars using lots of high-speed runs.
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There is a reason motorcycles are more expensive than this hybridized bit of insanity: they have to pass some basic safety standards.
Enjoy your death traps. Stay off the roads and side walks so you don't take any innocent people with you.
Chassis - Made of 6061 aluminum (not Huffy crap-steel). Lower weight and higher tensile strength - around 45,000psi. Look it up, I did. The welds are incredible on all of my e-bikes and Ive never heard of or had a failure after 4,000 miles on multiple bikes and trails.
LED lights - If you are brave/dumb enough to ride at night you can see and be seen.
Shimano Derailleurs - Bullet proof. I've never had an issue with one even after 2,300 miles on the same gear set. New chain at 1,700 miles, but cassette was great.
Motors /Batteries - Again after 1,000's of miles I've never had an issue failure nor have any of my friends. I am the only one that lost a motor. Internal gear stripped after 2,300 miles on the rear motor only. Front is still going strong.
Riding a bike is full of dangers, as is getting out of bed. Riding an e-bike has the very same dangers that riding a bike does. The difference is the rider. Play stupid games…….well? Ride like a responsible adult and you may just enjoy yourself for thousands of miles on trails you otherwise wouldn't be able to ride.
Hope that helps those honestly considering an e-bike. Those cowering in fear that have never owned or ridden one will still find a way to fear monger.
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Do you know what 55mph is? Its the velocity of a free-falling object dropped from 100ft up.
20mph, the speed of universally legal class 1 ebikes, winds up with the energy from falling 13ft.
There is a 7.56x difference in energies. For a 200lb motorcycle+rider, that 55mph energy is like 1,500lbs (3/4 ton) dropped from 13ft. Whatever is under that is going to take a lot of damage.Not to mention the person on the motorcycle
Remember, we're talking about stopping power, or distance, not slamming into a wall.
Every motorcyclist I know has torn up a set of protectice gear laying down a bike. My cousin shattered his helmet when he did, fortunately it gave his lofe for his face.
Remember, we're talking about stopping power, or distance, not slamming into a wall.
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