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20000mAh Wagon International 3-Port up to 190W Power Bank w/ Built-In Cable (Blue or Silver) on sale for $79.99 - $46 when you apply promo code
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- 190W high power output for charging multiple devices simultaneously (laptops, smartphones, tablets)
- 20,000mAh large capacity for all-day power and multiple device charges
- Built-in durable charging cable for ultimate convenience and on-the-go use
- 100W PD bi-directional fast charging for both input and output
- Wide compatibility with MacBook, Windows laptops, smartphones, tablets, and PD/PPS devices
- Smart IPS display shows real-time battery level, charging status, and power output
- Advanced safety protection against overcharge, overcurrent, overheating, and short circuits
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They gave you a secondary line that says Rated Capacity because they are calculating a real use capacity by taking into account loss of efficiency due to heat and various other factors. This is normal for all batteries. You will not be able to utilize all of the cell capacity of the batteries as no battery is 100% efficient.
Unlike many other power banks, at least they gave you both figures. Rest assured, the power bank indeed contains 4x 5000mAh 21700 cells, so it is 20,000mAh at 3.7v or around 15000mAh at 5v or 73Wh. Your rated capacity at 55.75Wh is more realistic which gives you around 76% efficiency, quite a conservative estimate and fairly normal. All battery and power bank manufacturers label their products this way. You will not find any power banks labeled 20,000mAh where you can get all 100% of that capacity. Other brands just don't give you the calculated "Rated Capacity" figure at all.
Your 10,000mAh ones are "more efficient" possibly due to the fact that they don't go nearly as high wattage or that they have a lower low-voltage cutoff. Would be impossible to tell without seeing your test numbers. You should test two power banks of similar wattage and of similar cell structure (4x 21700) to compare. Realistically, the discrepancy in your efficiency tests are unlikely to make a huge difference in real world use, maybe the different between charging your phone 4.5 times or 4.9 times.
Regardless, the point is that you said they are lying. Even if the efficiency on this product is worse, that does not mean they are lying. You misunderstood how batteries work and spread misinformation.
Community Reviews
This Wagon 20,000mAh power bank stands out for fast charging and travel-friendly capacity, with a built-in USB C cable, a USB C port, and a screen that shows temperature and in and out details. It can recharge itself at up to 100W, and real-world use includes quick top offs for phones and even a Steam Deck. The main caveat is that the back label lists 73Wh cell capacity and 55.75Wh rated capacity, so usable energy appears closer to 15,000mAh than the headline figure. Peak 190W also depends on a Lenovo proprietary charging mode, with lower output for standard USB PD devices.
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All of the different methodologies and numbers which can be fudged (including btw cell capacity ratings themselves) definitely make it difficult to evaluate on a level playing field. I am not so sure that bickering about numbers that fundamentally someone had to fudge in some sense (and only being able to guess as to which sense it might be) just to be able to have it to write down amounts to much.
I just wish someone would make a product that is easy to disassemble or better yet, built to have cells inserted with a secure but easily opened door, and I can get my own 6500mah high discharge cells (amprius makes a 10A capable one, and much more of this type are coming) to install inside, it might be $50 worth of batteries but no mass market power bank maker is going to use remotely high quality cells as those. I'd be willing to spend $50 or even more on a very robust and efficient control and USBC circuits. Again though to do it on your own it is possible (after the $100 in parts and much, much, much much more in labor) but we can never come close in DIY against the mass market producers when it comes to integrated product design and compactness. I would love to have a battery bank that i could actually trust that has good characteristics while being competitive at energy density. To really push the boundaries requires taking product design to an extreme level.
For example the high end cells coming out of China nowadays can dump easily over 100W per cell so if you have 4 cells to give some decent capacity like 80Wh (fill phone 4 times, fill a laptop 0.7 times) and it's like conceivably not too bulky to carry traveling, you can if you beef up the power circuit have it be capable of dumping out close to 1kW. Obviously this is impractical, and not only that but the only stuff that can make use of that much power will generally be running off AC mains.
There are products like this though, the car jump starter battery banks are an example. they have the ability to deliver 1kw for a short period through the clamps, all you really need is 3 or 4 series cells. But they do not give all that great capacity as a regular power bank.
Do you think it is FAKE, or over priced, or misleading (so you will not buy it).
Please keep it SIMPLE! I bought it, it does seem like solid device, charged up fast, ... for 34 dollars seems good to me. Just got it yesterday, so just giving first impression.
So, where are we as a group, is it good or not-so good for 34 dollars? Let the debate continue, and if it does, which side is winning.
It is solid feeling device. Just got it last night.
Hard to know what the debate is about. Is this product FAKE, or mis-leading or are people cross-talking over each other. Can you state your case in a few simple sentences for us "confused guys" that are looking for "experts" to enlighten us.
Other power banks may be able to put out more for their size at the cost of lower max input and output. If you don't need to charge any laptops at 100 watts, you might want to consider a slower one.
Instructions say to use a PD100W or above charger. The chargers I have for my phone don't list how many W. Do I need to get a upgraded charger port?
Little concerned that it says 190W on the front of the unit...concerned about getting thru TSA for upcoming international flight.
Never used a PB before.
190 watts is the peak output, airlines are only concerned about the total capacity. This is 73 Wh, which is below the 100 Wh maximum where they might get upset.
190 watts is the peak output, airlines are only concerned about the total capacity. This is 73 Wh, which is below the 100 Wh maximum where they might get upset.
Thanks for your reply.
Mine came with 25% charge. I used my phone charger last night...in 4.5 hours it got up to 92%, unplugged when I went to bed.
Its heavy, weighed in at 15.1ozs. More than I was hoping for for travel.
Good to hear for the 73w info.
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