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BP oil spill. People are paying attention NOW, aren't they? *mad face*

18,308 38,677 May 2, 2010 at 10:50 PM in Chat
Unless my "search" button is broken, I can't find any threads about this oil spill.

Aren't there some Loungers here from the Gulf Coast area, besides myself?

This thing is going to be bad. Really bad. Sadwalk


I grew up in Pensacola, FL and have spent my whole life on these beaches. Pensacola, Gulf Shores, Navarre, Destin ... they are beautiful. And they have already suffered so much devastation over the years from hurricanes and now they have to endure THIS?

If this goes on long enough and the oil makes it's way into the Florida Keys, that will be the end of the natural coral reef habitat. What about the dolphins and fish and turtles and birds?

Environmental disaster aside, I can't even imagine what the economic impact is going to be. Weeping

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Iaaaiws
05-03-2010 at 07:11 PM.
05-03-2010 at 07:11 PM.
Quote from MsGal :
Our food prices at the Commissary are lower on about half the products I buy and there's no tax but they do tack on a 5% "surcharge" at the end. Call it what it is ... a tax.
I don't know what the prices are like these days but when I was married my wife used to go to the PX at the air force base with her father (who was in the National Guard) and mother to shop. The price difference on groceries was incredible back then compared to the local supermarkets. I honestly don't remember if there was a tax or surcharge at the time but I wouldn't be surprised.

Eventually when Clinton got in office and started raping the military the base was closed and I don't believe the National Guard or Army Reserve in the area had any other options for discounts unless it was done by individual stores.
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05-03-2010 at 07:12 PM.
05-03-2010 at 07:12 PM.
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Your user name makes a lot more sense to us now
LMAO
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05-03-2010 at 07:22 PM.
05-03-2010 at 07:22 PM.
Quote from Clivefrog :
USA's Chernobyl
This is by no means on the level on Chernobyl. Please don't compare it to that. This might be the largest ecological disaster that may happen to us for many many many years to come.....but this by no means killed tens of thousands of people (only 50 were officially killed according to the Russians from the direct impact, but 270,000 cancers and 93,000 fatal cancer were caused by the aftermath..).

This explosion only killed 11 people and yes sea life by the hundreds of thousands over the coming years..but when considering human life, it is no where near the scale of what Chernobyl was.

We also need to remember that this was just ONE that exploded among the thousands available out there..it could have been a helluva lot worse...
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05-03-2010 at 07:36 PM.
05-03-2010 at 07:36 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I don't know what the prices are like these days but when I was married my wife used to go to the PX at the air force base with her father (who was in the National Guard) and mother to shop. The price difference on groceries was incredible back then compared to the local supermarkets. I honestly don't remember if there was a tax or surcharge at the time but I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, there is a surcharge now. They say that the money is used to pay staff (not baggers), and for building maintenance, etc. It's 5% here and if I shop in town (Walmart, Winn-Dixie), the tax on groceries is 7%. Meat products are ALOT cheaper at the Commissary but I don't buy alot of meat so..... Stick Out Tongue Dairy also tends to be less but for chips, cookies, sodas, cereal, things like that, they are often the same or more as I would pay in town. Fruits & vegetables are less but they are also low quality. I can't remember the last time we got decent melons or apples at the Comm.

Quote from dzap :
This is by no means on the level on Chernobyl. Please don't compare it to that. This might be the largest ecological disaster that may happen to us for many many many years to come.....but this by no means killed tens of thousands of people (only 50 were officially killed according to the Russians from the direct impact, but 270,000 cancers and 93,000 fatal cancer were caused by the aftermath..).

This explosion only killed 11 people and yes sea life by the hundreds of thousands over the coming years..but when considering human life, it is no where near the scale of what Chernobyl was.

We also need to remember that this was just ONE that exploded among the thousands available out there..it could have been a helluva lot worse...
You can't say that it WON'T kill hundreds or thousands of people in the years to come because dispersants are chemicals with risks that have not been assessed yet. Dontknow

Those chemicals will be in the food chain, the water, the sand that children play in........
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05-03-2010 at 07:39 PM.
05-03-2010 at 07:39 PM.
I wonder what the likelihood is that something like this could happen as a purely natural disaster. Obviously at the rate this well is leaking the oil in the ground must be under some pretty high pressure. With all of the earthquakes that have been happening lately what is to say that one couldn't happen under the ocean right where one of these oil pockets is and fracture the ground above it, releasing the oil into the ocean?

I'm sure there are probably plenty of reasons beyond my knowledge level that would make this unlikely to happen but it does seem like it would be at least a possibility. And if it did happen I imagine it would be almost impossible to stop a leak like that.
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05-03-2010 at 08:15 PM.
05-03-2010 at 08:15 PM.
dont care. natural selection survival of the fittest
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05-03-2010 at 08:16 PM.
05-03-2010 at 08:16 PM.
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dont care. natural selection survival of the fittest
huh?Confused
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05-03-2010 at 08:19 PM.
05-03-2010 at 08:19 PM.
Quote from eddiehaskell :
dont care. natural selection survival of the fittest
MadChairbashAnnoyedBashNumchucksCensored2Bonk

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05-03-2010 at 10:00 PM.
05-03-2010 at 10:00 PM.
Quote from w3kn :
I just can't figure out why they haven't figured how to at least stop it from leaking while repairs are made to the rig. It's just a sad situation for everybody.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/29/...index.html
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05-03-2010 at 10:21 PM.
05-03-2010 at 10:21 PM.
Quote from MsGal :

You can't say that it WON'T kill hundreds or thousands of people in the years to come because dispersants are chemicals with risks that have not been assessed yet. Dontknow

Those chemicals will be in the food chain, the water, the sand that children play in........
And so is every other toxin used in your household like dioxins and APEs etc. They all flow into the water cycle as well. The chemicals in cleaning products are responsible for thousands of injuries each year, and account for 10% of calls to U.S. Poison Control Centers.

...so while I'm not saying there might not be a threat..there probably isn't going to be one detrimental enough that isn't already part of our society. Dispersant was also used the Exxon-Valdez spill from 1989 and I haven't seen cancer rates shoot up from that one specific incident.

Besides sea life, this explosion is 0-to-nil on the impact of people in the area honestly. People will move on with their lives and will become aware of the areas that are now toxic...people in Chernobyl couldn't. The entire city and the surrounding area was tortured and to this day, radiation levels are still extremely high. It is still a ghost area and won't be able to be reclaimed by humans for decades..maybe even centuries..
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05-04-2010 at 12:01 AM.
05-04-2010 at 12:01 AM.
Quote from eddiehaskell :
dont care. i am american
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The media will move on with their lives and will become aware of that this story is no longer interesting...
fixed
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05-04-2010 at 06:20 AM.
05-04-2010 at 06:20 AM.
Quote from dzap :
Besides sea life, this explosion is 0-to-nil on the impact of people in the area honestly. ..
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you have no clue what you are talking about, none
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05-04-2010 at 08:16 AM.
05-04-2010 at 08:16 AM.
Quote from dzap :
Besides sea life, this explosion is 0-to-nil on the impact of people in the area honestly. .
Quote from LordRamZ :
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you have no clue what you are talking about, none
Dzap ... love ya', but I have to agree with LR here.

This will put a bite on tourism dollars unlike any of us have ever seen. I grew up in FL and tourists return after a hurricane. Heck, they return after 2 or 3 hurricanes in one year. The shrimp, oysters and fish come back and it's completely edible. People can rebuild in a matter of months from a hurricane.

This spill could DEVASTATE the Panhandle beaches, Gulf Shores, Orange Beach, Perdido, BOTH areas of the Gulf Islands National Seashores, the beaches in Mississippi...

It could have a GLOBAL effect on seafood availablilty and prices. Tourists will NOT come back to these areas if they can't swim in the water, play in the sand and especially if they have to smell petroleum in the air and get tar balls on their feet when they walk on the beach. Ever visited a beach off the East Coast of Texas? I lived in Corpus for a year and let me just say UGH!!! Smells bad, looks bad and there's tar everywhere.

This will affect soooo many people. Shimpers/fisherman, beach house/condo/restauant owners, servers, cooks, hotels, hotel staff, shopping centers, souvenior stores, gas stations, grocery stores, seafood markets......

Thousands? Hundreds of thousands? Who knows for sure. Dontknow
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05-04-2010 at 08:21 AM.
05-04-2010 at 08:21 AM.
Mississippi beaches are already filthy, even Ship Island. Only old people go there & it's not for the beach anyway. You can't find any decent beaches until you reach Pensacola which is still halfway crappy.
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05-04-2010 at 08:26 AM.
05-04-2010 at 08:26 AM.
Quote from Ray Nagin :
Mississippi beaches are already filthy, even Ship Island. Only old people go there & it's not for the beach anyway. You can't find any decent beaches until you reach Pensacola which is still halfway crappy.
Ray ever been to Ft. Morgan ? It is stunning... first stop on the east side of the bay
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