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The magnet on this is great. It will scuff up your drywall so use a cloth under the wheels to keep your surfaces clean. Try to use a nice fishing line or something on the weight. I sometimes just fish fish sticks and the wheeler end vs the weight it comes with. Ran plenty of speaker, ether and electric with this.
I kinda always find myself using the fish sticks tho.
How long is it going to take you to design, print, and assemble your DIY version? That might make sense for a homeowner who likes (and has the time) to tinker, but if someone doesn't have that kind of time or is getting paid to do electrical work, buying the proven and trusted Klein tool is the way to go.
I'd recommend clicking the llink to review the product page, photos, and other products. There you'll see this is the low end of this type of product. It's not great and likely isn't for every need. It will do the basic job.
It probably costs more than necessary, but so do a lot of things. It does carry the Klein name, so it's likely a bit more costly than a no-name version; just checked and there's a knockoff (same color and features) that's a dollar cheaper. Again, it's basic and does the job so there's likely not a bit of room left for making something new, or yourself, and making a profit or saving money.
I do wood working and can make most furniture featured on SD, but I don't comment on the post saying, "I could do it better for cheaper and people who spend their money on it are rich fools." You kind of crashed the post with your comment that said you could do it better, cheaper, and thought that anyone who spent money on it was throwing money away.
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If I'm understanding this product correctly, I have N52 magnets and a 3D printer that can print a more functional version of this (360-degree rotation, probably even multi-directional wheels) for a fraction of the sale price, forget the MSRP. Should I be trying to design a better version of this for half the sale price or is there some hidden engineering I'm missing? I can't tell if there's actually a market for this or if is this just an impulse buy for people who make so much money they don't even blink at an expenditure like this. lol
I'm going to try and respond without downvoting, although the downvotes are because this isn't the site to get feedback for new ideas... There is a big markup that the Klein name adds, for historical reasons more than current quality. There is a significant market for these, and a big selection of 3D printed or mass produced junk for lack of a better term, made of pure Chinesium(TM). Engineering in this in-wall exploring and routing space is severely lacking. I would say there are two main reasons: 1) pros just value time differently, and a 20 min drywall patch will almost always be faster than messing about with something when you are at the start of the learning curve 2) homeowners just would never get to a reasonable part of the learning curve where this would be cleaner and more satisfying than the drywall patch. There is a crazy small minority that would appreciate better engineered tools and can actually use them (think surgical oncologist with mad laparoscopic and robotic skills who has the money to hire a pro, understands this is a waste of his $500+/hour time but prefers it to golf). That's where you get the "wtf is wrong with you guys, where is my working channel in the borescope?" questions, and the reason why there are $2500+ versions of something you could make with a $20 borescope and a few $5 tubes: https://www.oasisscientific.com/p...cd-monitor
I tied the fish line through the hole and put a handful in the wall, and then the rest in a sock and pulled them along the wall. Worked great for running lines in my home.
Though a dedicated tool like this would be nice if this were my day job.
If I'm understanding this product correctly, I have N52 magnets and a 3D printer that can print a more functional version of this (360-degree rotation, probably even multi-directional wheels) for a fraction of the sale price, forget the MSRP. Should I be trying to design a better version of this for half the sale price or is there some hidden engineering I'm missing? I can't tell if there's actually a market for this or if is this just an impulse buy for people who make so much money they don't even blink at an expenditure like this. lol
I'd recommend clicking the llink to review the product page, photos, and other products. There you'll see this is the low end of this type of product. It's not great and likely isn't for every need. It will do the basic job.
It probably costs more than necessary, but so do a lot of things. It does carry the Klein name, so it's likely a bit more costly than a no-name version; just checked and there's a knockoff (same color and features) that's a dollar cheaper. Again, it's basic and does the job so there's likely not a bit of room left for making something new, or yourself, and making a profit or saving money.
I do wood working and can make most furniture featured on SD, but I don't comment on the post saying, "I could do it better for cheaper and people who spend their money on it are rich fools." You kind of crashed the post with your comment that said you could do it better, cheaper, and thought that anyone who spent money on it was throwing money away.
I appreciate you asking the question, because i am in the same boat with a 3d printer and CAD skills to DIY this. I would pay the premium for this product if there was a good reason to though!
lol please send me the file.. i have a 3d printer that doesnt get used enough.
Watched the video. Concerned by the worker wearing a breathing mask while working by himself in an attic with nobody else around . Is this a toxic tool?
If you've never been in an attic, it's usually very dusty and walking through insulation will kick up more dust and particulates that aren't fun to breathe in. Always wear a mask when working in the attic.
How long is it going to take you to design, print, and assemble your DIY version? That might make sense for a homeowner who likes (and has the time) to tinker, but if someone doesn't have that kind of time or is getting paid to do electrical work, buying the proven and trusted Klein tool is the way to go.
Electrician's are moving away from Klien. The quality has gone down significantly in the past few years.
Watched the video. Concerned by the worker wearing a breathing mask while working by himself in an attic with nobody else around . Is this a toxic tool?
Electrician's are moving away from Klien. The quality has gone down significantly in the past few years.
Has it? That would surprise me, as Klein tools are one of a few brands that haven't been bought out or consolidated. I haven't had any issues with my products, but I am also not an electrician working with them everyday or in tough environments.
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I kinda always find myself using the fish sticks tho.
It probably costs more than necessary, but so do a lot of things. It does carry the Klein name, so it's likely a bit more costly than a no-name version; just checked and there's a knockoff (same color and features) that's a dollar cheaper. Again, it's basic and does the job so there's likely not a bit of room left for making something new, or yourself, and making a profit or saving money.
I do wood working and can make most furniture featured on SD, but I don't comment on the post saying, "I could do it better for cheaper and people who spend their money on it are rich fools." You kind of crashed the post with your comment that said you could do it better, cheaper, and thought that anyone who spent money on it was throwing money away.
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I tied the fish line through the hole and put a handful in the wall, and then the rest in a sock and pulled them along the wall. Worked great for running lines in my home.
Though a dedicated tool like this would be nice if this were my day job.
It probably costs more than necessary, but so do a lot of things. It does carry the Klein name, so it's likely a bit more costly than a no-name version; just checked and there's a knockoff (same color and features) that's a dollar cheaper. Again, it's basic and does the job so there's likely not a bit of room left for making something new, or yourself, and making a profit or saving money.
I do wood working and can make most furniture featured on SD, but I don't comment on the post saying, "I could do it better for cheaper and people who spend their money on it are rich fools." You kind of crashed the post with your comment that said you could do it better, cheaper, and thought that anyone who spent money on it was throwing money away.
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I appreciate you asking the question, because i am in the same boat with a 3d printer and CAD skills to DIY this. I would pay the premium for this product if there was a good reason to though!
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