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Please pray for the safety of our employees. This is in silver spring, MD. News said there is a hostage. Police locked down the vicinity and I saw swat team. We were out of the bldg but some I believe are still there. This is the discovery channel corporate bldg.

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09-01-2010 at 01:41 PM.
09-01-2010 at 01:41 PM.
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Glad you made it out ok.. It will be nice when a sniper takes this guy down.
What he did was far worse than drowning a few puppies.
He really didn't do anything yet except for inciting a panic. Until he injures or kills someone he cannot be compared to the other case.
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09-01-2010 at 01:42 PM.
09-01-2010 at 01:42 PM.
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I'd actually like to see the sniper shot turn him into a quadripalegic rather than kill him.

It would be LMAO to see this guy endure a lifetime of suffering.
and roll around the front of the discovery building in the future?
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09-01-2010 at 01:44 PM.
09-01-2010 at 01:44 PM.
Quote from vec :
He really didn't do anything yet except for inciting a panic. Until he injures or kills someone he cannot be compared to the other case.
Iagree
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09-01-2010 at 01:46 PM.
09-01-2010 at 01:46 PM.
Quote from vec :
He really didn't do anything yet except for inciting a panic. Until he injures or kills someone he cannot be compared to the other case.
Taking a hostage and threatening to detonate an explosive where it can hurt or kill people is far worse than inciting a panic. The guy is clearly willing to kill people to get publicity for his wacked out cause.

I really wish news organizations would not give these guys the attention they want. Don't give their identity. Don't tell the world their "manifesto".. Don't make celeberities out of these guys.

On the 6 pm news, just say that a wacko took a hostage, but thankfully the swat team killed him before he hurt anyone else. End of story. Let these wackos die annoyomously.
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09-01-2010 at 01:48 PM.
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Quote from jj12321 :
Taking a hostage and threatening to detonate an explosive where it can hurt or kill people is far worse than inciting a panic. The guy is clearly willing to kill people to get publicity for his wacked out cause.

I really wish news organizations would not give these guys the attention they want. Don't give their identity. Don't tell the world their "manifesto".. Don't make celeberities out of these guys.

On the 6 pm news, just say that a wacko took a hostage, but thankfully the swat team killed him before he hurt anyone else. End of story. Let these wackos die annoyomously.
How do you know he's willing to kill people? I can make a device that looks like a bomb with a blinking red light that had NOTHING in it. Am I willing to kill people? He has a gun, so does every redneck in the US.

Why kill him automatically? Until it escalates, they're not going to have a sniper kill him. They'll try to talk to him down.
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09-01-2010 at 01:50 PM.
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Quote from jj12321 :
Taking a hostage and threatening to detonate an explosive where it can hurt or kill people is far worse than inciting a panic. The guy is clearly willing to kill people to get publicity for his wacked out cause.
It definitely isn't clear that he is willing to kill someone. We still don't even know if it is really a bomb. Like you said, "threatening". That is inciting a panic. The only thing that is confirmed is that he is a wacko.

The other case was clear, she was willing to kill. This case is still playing out.
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09-01-2010 at 01:52 PM.
09-01-2010 at 01:52 PM.
GaryJBusey: The Discovery Channel building hostage situation wouldn't matter if the hostages were John & Kate plus 8.
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09-01-2010 at 01:52 PM.
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How do you know he's willing to kill people? I can make a device that looks like a bomb with a blinking red light that had NOTHING in it. Am I willing to kill people? He has a gun, so does every redneck in the US.

Why kill him automatically? Until it escalates, they're not going to have a sniper kill him. They'll try to talk to him down.
Because if the sniper has a clear shot, it's better to kill him than wait for him to kill someone else.

If someone takes a hostage, they are asking for it.. Even if the bombs/gun are fake.

When I was in college, some nutjob with a gun took 2 people hostage in the hospital. Thankfully, he eventually walked past a window and was killed before he had a chance to hurt or kill the innocent hostages.

Besides, it would save the taxpayers a lot of money if they just killed this guy. I don't want him back on the streets. People like him don't deserve the opportunity to live in a nice jail, get a free education, and have the taxpayers try to rehab their farked up heads.

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The other case was clear, she was willing to kill. This case is still playing out.
Human life is more valuable than a couple unwanted puppies. What the drowner did was wrong, but this is far worse.
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09-01-2010 at 01:53 PM.
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Quote from Fallacy :
How do you know he's willing to kill people? I can make a device that looks like a bomb with a blinking red light that had NOTHING in it. Am I willing to kill people? He has a gun, so does every redneck in the US.

Why kill him automatically? Until it escalates, they're not going to have a sniper kill him. They'll try to talk to him down.
Did he fire any shots? There is no guarantee that the gun that he has have any live ammunition.
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09-01-2010 at 01:55 PM.
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Human life is more valuable than a couple unwanted puppies. What the drowner did was wrong, but this is far worse.
I never said that human life wasn't more valuable.....but no human life was taken yet. Until then there is no basis for comparison between the two cases.
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09-01-2010 at 01:59 PM.
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Did he fire any shots? There is no guarantee that the gun that he has have any live ammunition.
You quoted the wrong person. I'm arguing that even though he has something that looks like a bomb and a gun, doesn't automatically mean he's willing to kill and it doesn't automatically mean the snipers will kill him at the first opportunity.
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09-01-2010 at 01:59 PM.
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Quote from vec :
It definitely isn't clear that he is willing to kill someone. We still don't even know if it is really a bomb. Like you said, "threatening". That is inciting a panic. The only thing that is confirmed is that he is a wacko.
and you're saying they wont snipe him for that?
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09-01-2010 at 02:01 PM.
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Quote from saint. :
and you're saying they wont snipe him for that?
Yep. Because if he has a dead-man switch, the sniper would automatically kill all the people in the room.
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09-01-2010 at 02:03 PM.
09-01-2010 at 02:03 PM.
I actually think it is quite clear that he is seeking attention. If he were totally serious about killing others, he would have walked into the building and shot it up and then blew that "bomb." He wants to make a point. It's like people who talk about suicide. If you just talk about it you want attention, it is always the ones who you "never saw it coming" who off themselves.

As for the link from the Oklahoma City case.... I never knew it drew a 3.0 on the Richter scale. That is insane.
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09-01-2010 at 02:03 PM.
09-01-2010 at 02:03 PM.
He was shot, and is in custody.

If you're going to go into a building with any sort of "bomb" strapped to your chest, you have to be prepared to get shot or killed. There's really nothing more to it.
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