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How much emergency money do you keep?

8,038 649 March 25, 2011 at 07:56 PM in Question
Just wondering approximately how much cash people keep on hand in the event of an emergency…

not talking about the 20 behind your drivers liscense…


i am referring to the money burried in your sock drawer, under your mattress, in a box in the back yard etc..


they money you keep on hand for the earthquake, flood, riot, hurricane, etc…


I am refreshing my emergency supplies and just am not sure if I have enough cash on hand (yes I am making sure i have it in smaller bills so i can make change in the event others cant)

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PaintTheSkyGrey
03-26-2011 at 12:39 PM.
03-26-2011 at 12:39 PM.
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That's the one thing I think we need......a gun or rifle. But, since we have kids, my wife is scared to have any type of gun in the house.
Tell her to get over herself.

Exactly like that.
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03-26-2011 at 12:52 PM.
03-26-2011 at 12:52 PM.
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Tell her to get over herself.

Exactly like that.
I think my wife would be okay with a rifle. Because, and we may be wrong to think this, a rifle seems safer than have a hand gun around as far as your kids getting to it and messing with it.
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03-26-2011 at 12:56 PM.
03-26-2011 at 12:56 PM.
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I think my wife would be okay with a rifle. Because, and we may be wrong to think this, a rifle seems safer than have a hand gun around as far as your kids getting to it and messing with it.
Bluntly - you're wrong.

A handgun is easier to put way up high in a lockbox.

A rifle is harder to store, can't be locked up without a giant safe (aside from a trigger lock, which I don't like to advocate using).

The key would be to teach your kids that it's strictly off-limits and to never touch a weapon, whether it's loaded or not. Always tell a "responsible adult" so they can deal with it.

/NRA
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03-26-2011 at 12:59 PM.
03-26-2011 at 12:59 PM.
Quote from z2g :
That's the one thing I think we need......a gun or rifle. But, since we have kids, my wife is scared to have any type of gun in the house.

well if you follow basic safety with gun locks and securing the ammo etc
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03-26-2011 at 01:01 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:01 PM.
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Bluntly - you're wrong.

A handgun is easier to put way up high in a lockbox.

A rifle is harder to store, can't be locked up without a giant safe (aside from a trigger lock, which I don't like to advocate using).

The key would be to teach your kids that it's strictly off-limits and to never touch a weapon, whether it's loaded or not. Always tell a "responsible adult" so they can deal with it.

/NRA
Can't you buy one of those big hunting rifle cases that you can lock? Then, we can put it up in the top shelf in our walk-in closet.

I guess the reason why we feel it's "safer" is because any small child can handle a hand gun. However, a rifle is larger. Of course, I've rarely handled a gun in my life. So, I'm no expert.

I just talked to my wife. She's okay with a rifle. Due to all the looting in times of disaster in America, she also wants protection.
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03-26-2011 at 01:06 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:06 PM.
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Can't you buy one of those big hunting rifle cases that you can lock? Then, we can put it up in the top shelf in our walk-in closet.

I guess the reason why we feel it's "safer" is because any small child can handle a hand gun. However, a rifle is larger. Of course, I've rarely handled a gun in my life. So, I'm no expert.
You could, but why not just get a lock box for a handgun if that's the case?

Also, trigger pulls are generally lighter on rifles than handguns.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push you in either direction. I'd just like to clear up the misconception that one is inherently 'safer' than the other. They're both just as dangerous when in the wrong hands.

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I just talked to my wife. She's okay with a rifle. Due to all the looting in times of disaster in America, she also wants protection.
Cool beans.

What kind of rifle? laugh out loud
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03-26-2011 at 01:09 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:09 PM.
I am not telling you the $4000 I kept under my mattress, not a chance. And $400 I hide in the condom box, oh wait, that ain't emergency money.
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03-26-2011 at 01:10 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:10 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
You could, but why not just get a lock box for a handgun if that's the case?

Also, trigger pulls are generally lighter on rifles than handguns.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push you in either direction. I'd just like to clear up the misconception that one is inherently 'safer' than the other. They're both just as dangerous when in the wrong hands.


Cool beans.

What kind of rifle? laugh out loud
I'm looking online and I'm thinking just a basic 22 caliber rifle. Any recommendations? Any features I should look for?

As far as the hand gun thing, I agree. I prefer a hand gun too. However, the wife is cool with the rifle. So, it's that or no gun.laugh out loud
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03-26-2011 at 01:12 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:12 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
You could, but why not just get a lock box for a handgun if that's the case?

Also, trigger pulls are generally lighter on rifles than handguns.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to push you in either direction. I'd just like to clear up the misconception that one is inherently 'safer' than the other. They're both just as dangerous when in the wrong hands.


Cool beans.

What kind of rifle? laugh out loud

an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon
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03-26-2011 at 01:13 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:13 PM.
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I'm looking online and I'm thinking just a basic 22 caliber rifle. Any recommendations? Any features I should look for?

As far as the hand gun thing, I agree. I prefer a hand gun too. However, the wife is cool with the rifle. So, it's that or no gun.laugh out loud
A .22 would be good for "general use".

The Ruger 10-22 is a good weapon - pretty much the "standard" for .22 rifles. You could also look at something like the M&P 15-22, which is an AR-15 style .22 rifle.

I have a few different rifles. For HD, I'd definitely go for a semi-auto. How does your wife feel about "evil black rifles"?

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an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon
Is that 7.62x39 or .308?
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03-26-2011 at 01:17 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:17 PM.
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A .22 would be good for "general use".

The Ruger 10-22 is a good weapon - pretty much the "standard" for .22 rifles. You could also look at something like the M&P 15-22, which is an AR-15 style .22 rifle.

I have a few different rifles. For HD, I'd definitely go for a semi-auto. How does your wife feel about "evil black rifles"?


Is that 7.62x39 or .308?
What are "evil black rifles"?

So, I know nothing about guns. I went hunting with my dad and uncles when I was a kid a few times. And, I went to the shooting range a couple times when I was in college. With hunting rifles, should I get a semi-automatic one? I guess that would be where the bullets go into a clip, right?

For non-semi-auto rifles, is it like single loading?
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Is that 7.62x39 or .308?

ArmaLite AR-10Caliber:.308/7.62MMMag Capacity:10 rd.Barrel Length:16" Chrome HBAR (carbine) 1 in 12" RH twistOAL:37.1"Weight:9 lbs.Accuracy:1½" gp @ 100yrds (1.5-2 MOA)Stock:Green furnitureFront Sights:M16 styleUpper Receiver:Forged A2Other:Complete with: 2 mags., owners manual, lifetime warranty. Scope not included. Muzzle recoil check
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03-26-2011 at 01:23 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:23 PM.
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What are "evil black rifles"?

So, I know nothing about guns. I went hunting with my dad and uncles when I was a kid a few times. And, I went to the shooting range a couple times when I was college. With hunting rifles, should I get a semi-automatic one? I guess that would be where the bullets go into a clip, right?

For non-semi-auto rifles, is it like single loading?
EBR = "assault weapons", like AK's, AR-15 (M4/M-16-style weapons), SKS's, etc. The weapons the media likes to portray as OMG BAD.

A semi-automatic rifle shoots one round every time you pull the trigger (provided there's adequate ammo). An automatic shoots as long as you hold the trigger, or sometimes in bursts (these are illegal without a hefty tax stamp, and also expensive). Bolt-action rifles are the ones where you have around 5 rounds loaded into the weapon, and you have to manually cycle the rounds.

A good bolt-action demo [youtube.com].
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03-26-2011 at 01:25 PM.
03-26-2011 at 01:25 PM.
Quote from PaintTheSkyGrey :
Bluntly - you're wrong.

A handgun is easier to put way up high in a lockbox.

A rifle is harder to store, can't be locked up without a giant safe (aside from a trigger lock, which I don't like to advocate using).

The key would be to teach your kids that it's strictly off-limits and to never touch a weapon, whether it's loaded or not. Always tell a "responsible adult" so they can deal with it.

/NRA
That's almost exactly what I was going to say.

Handguns are much smaller and will be more easily hidden. If the kids don't see/find it, they won't want to play with it. There are lots of different lockboxes and handgun vaults available, but remember, you also want something that is relatively easy to access in an emergency.
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Can't you buy one of those big hunting rifle cases that you can lock? Then, we can put it up in the top shelf in our walk-in closet.

I guess the reason why we feel it's "safer" is because any small child can handle a hand gun. However, a rifle is larger. Of course, I've rarely handled a gun in my life. So, I'm no expert.

I just talked to my wife. She's okay with a rifle. Due to all the looting in times of disaster in America, she also wants protection.
One suggestion, maybe a shotgun would be better than a rifle. Most defense situations occur up close and personal, a shotgun is better at close range. Rifles are better at distances.
Also, whatever choice you make, be sure to get some range time in for practice and don't just put it up and forget it until you need it, practice regularly. Professional training would also be a good idea.

A .22 for defense is a BAD idea. They are great guns for practice and learning how to use a gun, but you want something bigger for self defense. Don't get me wrong they're better than nothing, but not ideal. I see you're in Commiefornia, so you've got more restrictions than most. Cali legal AR-15s are a shame, perhaps a Ruger Mini-14 if they are legal, otherwise I'd stick with something simple like a Marlin 30-30 lever action in a rifle. But I think you'd be better off with a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun like a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870.
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03-26-2011 at 01:26 PM.
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EBR = "assault weapons", like AK's, AR-15 (M4/M-16-style weapons), SKS's, etc. The weapons the media likes to portray as OMG BAD.

A semi-automatic rifle shoots one round every time you pull the trigger (provided there's adequate ammo). An automatic shoots as long as you hold the trigger, or sometimes in bursts (these are illegal without a hefty tax stamp, and also expensive). Bolt-action rifles are the ones where you have around 5 rounds loaded into the weapon, and you have to manually cycle the rounds.

A good bolt-action demo [youtube.com].
that ruger 10-22 looks like something i'll be interested in. where does the 10-round magazine go? and, how much do those run?
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