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Another theory on obesity

8,799 168 February 10, 2012 at 06:25 AM in Grocery Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

There are many theories on the causes of obesity. Some say too much fat, too many calories. Ironically, many of the modern diets have generally failed to fix the problem.

The above video is long. For people who will reply with tl;dr here is the synopsis:



Watch it if you get a chance. I really enjoyed it and found it both eye opening and informative, without needing some shock factor or sex to sell it. It follows a simple premise and makes a lot of sense.

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02-10-2012 at 08:54 AM.
02-10-2012 at 08:54 AM.
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Seriously? Are you new? Confused
Is this common now?


In my experience, most people will at least read the article/watch the video before bickering about it. Even in the lounge.


So I guess now no one's even bothering to do that now, huh? Another step to the bottom of the hill! Whee
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02-10-2012 at 08:55 AM.
02-10-2012 at 08:55 AM.
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I would also like to point out that you could get fat without sugar. That body will store fat on it's own without a consistant meal schedule...but I'll leave that one alone..
Just don't go near any laptops when you have a .45...

He touches a lot on those points and the (general) dietary changes the USA has gone through in the last 40 years. He explains why sugar is the biggest part of the problem and who made it become the problem (also why the gov won't fix it).

For people who eat in moderation, eat lots of fiber, etc, this doesn't apply to. It mainly applies to people who are obese with lower calorie diets (yes they exist) and obese kids and why exercise alone can't fix the problem for these people.

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I guess that's my queue to leave then.
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02-10-2012 at 08:57 AM.
02-10-2012 at 08:57 AM.
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Just don't go near any laptops when you have a .45...
I still don't get the reference Dontknow
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02-10-2012 at 08:57 AM.
02-10-2012 at 08:57 AM.
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I still don't get the reference Dontknow
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02-10-2012 at 08:59 AM.
02-10-2012 at 08:59 AM.
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Is this common now?


In my experience, most people will at least read the article/watch the video before bickering about it. Even in the lounge.


So I guess now no one's even bothering to do that now, huh? Another step to the bottom of the hill! Whee
Are you new? Confused You don't look new, since you stole my IVI!

Opinions are like asshole, everyone has one and they all stink.

Most people don't agree with the opinions the OP listed in the cliffsnotes in the OP -- which should be representative of the video. If the video was 5mins, i'd watch it on my phone. 90minutes is a long time to devote to one persons opinion in a video. If it was a long article, i'd bet at least 1/4 people in this thread would read it.
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02-10-2012 at 09:01 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:01 AM.
Quote from mohater :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

There are many theories on the causes of obesity. Some say too much fat, too many calories. Ironically, many of the modern diets have generally failed to fix the problem.

The above video is long. For people who will reply with tl;dr here is the synopsis:



Watch it if you get a chance. I really enjoyed it and found it both eye opening and informative, without needing some shock factor or sex to sell it. It follows a simple premise and makes a lot of sense.
Read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Taubes
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02-10-2012 at 09:06 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:06 AM.
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I'm one who bases accusations on the preponderance of evidence, not accusations based on nothing. That being said, what group stands to benefit from taxing sugar? Not the crop industry, not the FDA and not any big companies who work in this field.

If you have evidence to support this, I'd like to see it (I'm serious, I would really like to see it, I'm not being cynical). I take things with a grain of salt, that being said, I don't accuse people w/o evidence to support it. I don't support his evidence to tax sugar, I support his evidence to stop subsidizing sugar.

I can't teach you about the way the gov't works! laugh out loud But you have to ask yourself who benefits from any tax? Why would we subsidize corn? It's used in everything, and yet we claim there's going to be a world shortage on it while we pay farmers not to grow it. Do your own research. You started this thread by saying that the cause of obesity in this country can be traced to one source -- sugar. You can't just make a claim like that because you watched a video on youtube and not back it up. I gave you my objectives and stated that there was an underlying agenda based on your own comments about the video.
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02-10-2012 at 09:08 AM.
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02-10-2012 at 09:09 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:09 AM.
Quote from vec :

I actually started the video but ended it once I saw that it was 90 minutes. There was no way I could commit the time required.
So why bother committing to the time of a dozen or two posts arguing about it? laugh out loud

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Dodgeball is the ultimate 'survival of the fittest' exercise. Kids should want to play this game and want to improve each time they do play it. This game is "real life"
You're using that phrase incorrectly. It was not originally meant to mean best physical fitness. And dodgeball has absolutely nothing to do with "survival of the fittest." Survival of the fittest refers to best adapted for local environment. And reproduction has much more to do with that.

And dodgeball maybe be like your real life, but it is certainly nothing like mine.

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Exactly!

We didn't wear helmets when riding our bikes. We didn't even wear them when competing in a furthest jump contest. When we scraped our knees and elbows our moms would make us wash it and put a band-aid on the wound before going outside to finish what we started. We did a lot of things that these pansy-assed kids today don't get to do.
I'm sure the number of lawsuits and the number of lawsuit threats has a great deal to do with those changes.

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I'll spend 90-some posts arguing about pretty much anything.
I know you will. laugh out loud

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Are you new? Confused You don't look new, since you stole my IVI!

Opinions are like asshole, everyone has one and they all stink.

Most people don't agree with the opinions the OP listed in the cliffsnotes in the OP -- which should be representative of the video. If the video was 5mins, i'd watch it on my phone. 90minutes is a long time to devote to one persons opinion in a video. If it was a long article, i'd bet at least 1/4 people in this thread would read it.
You still haven't answered why you bother to argue about it if you won't watch the video. You just keep complaining how long the video is. laugh out loud


It's long for you, I GET IT! Harhar
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02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
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I'll spend 90-some posts arguing about pretty much anything.
You know I will!
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02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
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I can't teach you about the way the gov't works! laugh out loud But you have to ask yourself who benefits from any tax? Why would we subsidize corn? It's used in everything, and yet we claim there's going to be a world shortage on it while we pay farmers not to grow it. Do your own research. You started this thread by saying that the cause of obesity in this country can be traced to one source -- sugar. You can't just make a claim like that because you watched a video on youtube and not back it up. I gave you my objectives and stated that there was an underlying agenda based on your own comments about the video.
You have not presented any evidence to support your claim, or any reasonable logic.. Not everyone who presents a tax is a charlatan.

You have your preconceived notions and I can't change that.
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02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:11 AM.
Quote from IVIal :
So why bother committing to the time of a dozen or two posts arguing about it? laugh out loud
It was very well stated that I was debating this one line that was originally post in the OP: The problem is sugar - PERIOD....and could still be seen in my qplr

You do not need to watch a video to comment on a definitive statement.

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You're using that phrase incorrectly. It was not originally meant to mean best physical fitness. And dodgeball has absolutely nothing to do with "survival of the fittest." Survival of the fittest refers to best adapted for local environment. And reproduction has much more to do with that.

And dodgeball maybe be like your real life, but it is certainly nothing like mine.
Disagree

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I'm sure the number of lawsuits and the number of lawsuit threats has a great deal to do with those changes.
Another problem with this country


Quote from IVIal :
You still haven't answered why you bother to argue about it if you won't watch the video. You just keep complaining how long the video is. laugh out loud


It's long for you, I GET IT! Harhar
See above
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You know I will!
You only argue about stuff no one but nagin cares about.

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You have not presented any evidence to support your claim, or any reasonable logic.
You must not know him very well. laugh out loud That's Chewy's MO.

Quote from vec :
It was very well stated that I was debating this one line that was originally post in the OP: The problem is sugar - PERIOD....and could still be seen in my qplr

You do not need to watch a video to comment on a definitive statement.
True, fair enough.
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You only argue about stuff no one but nagin cares about.


I care too!
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02-10-2012 at 09:14 AM.
02-10-2012 at 09:14 AM.
Quote from vec :

Dodgeball is the ultimate 'survival of the fittest' exercise. Kids should want to play this game and want to improve each time they do play it. This game is "real life"
Iagree Without dodgeball, we are all French Canadian.

Holy crap I don't know how many times i have to say i can't watch youtube at work! laugh out loud
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