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isnt it past time we get rid of welfare
March 23, 2012 at
08:06 PM
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the whole system is a scam
if you need food get a job
its simple
people get on welfare, get comfortable and have 12 kids all while my tax money feeds them
if you need food get a job
its simple
people get on welfare, get comfortable and have 12 kids all while my tax money feeds them
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Just like some people extreme-coupon, why not extreme-welfare?
NOTE: I'm not advocating lying, fraud, etc. I'm also not implying extreme couponing is illegal in the least bit. I've done it before as well and would never advocate fraud w/ coupons and merchants and the same goes for government. Rather, people are likely eligible for benefits that they don't know about it. Nothing is slicker than getting government benefits for free like food, housing, transportation cards, medical care, etc.
I'm sure the bright collective minds of Slickdeals could exploit every single loophole and technicality in our haywire system of welfare bennies.
Also, I didn't suggest this as some kind of power trip. I have zero interest in ever becoming a mod or starting some niche in the community. SD's is purely entertainment for me. I would however accept the role of Chief Welfare Czar of Slickdeals with zero accountability, zero responsibility and zero forum power. It would be title only and I could get a cool avatar or something. I am open to that.
How about a phase down and phase out system as has been suggested before? Over a period of years the 'family' with the young children will get less to encourage the mother (and baby daddy too if he be around) to work to support her and their children? Then change it to a more limited system of a few years of benefits for temporary help while the parents get job training to support the family? Didn't Clinton do that in the 90's? Why not go back to it?
Just like some people extreme-coupon, why not extreme-welfare?
NOTE: I'm not advocating lying, fraud, etc. I'm also not implying extreme couponing is illegal in the least bit. I've done it before as well and would never advocate fraud w/ coupons and merchants and the same goes for government. Rather, people are likely eligible for benefits that they don't know about it. Nothing is slicker than getting government benefits for free like food, housing, transportation cards, medical care, etc.
I'm sure the bright collective minds of Slickdeals could exploit every single loophole and technicality in our haywire system of welfare bennies.
Also, I didn't suggest this as some kind of power trip. I have zero interest in ever becoming a mod or starting some niche in the community. SD's is purely entertainment for me. I would however accept the role of Chief Welfare Czar of Slickdeals with zero accountability, zero responsibility and zero forum power. It would be title only and I could get a cool avatar or something. I am open to that.
Have to agree the SD crowd could strip the welfare cupboards bare! Talented bunch here that can milk the last quarter out of a coupon. (insert Jewish joke here)
Have to agree the SD crowd could strip the welfare cupboards bare! Talented bunch here that can milk the last quarter out of a coupon. (insert Jewish joke here)[/QUOTE]
Yeah! I mean, why not?
Part of it is a joke, but I'm also half-serious about it. I'm done with arguing with liberals in the podium about welfare fraud. According to them, fraud is minimal at best and basically a non-issue, so..... why not start a forum in Slickdeals to legally talk about every welfare program at the state and national level users might be eligible for?
Hell, maybe I'm eligible for some free government money that I don't know about.
(If anything, it might be enlightening to see who's posting in welfare thread and the 60" LCD tv threads. Hell, I remember seeing in the news some lady upset that the government was screwing up her welfare program and she had an HDTV at a time when NO-ONE in my non-welfare receiving family had)
Part of it is a joke, but I'm also half-serious about it. I'm done with arguing with liberals in the podium about welfare fraud. According to them, fraud is minimal at best and basically a non-issue,
Hell, maybe I'm eligible for some free government money that I don't know about.
You'll really piss off this convicted felon hawking his books on that subject.....all filled with the info he plagiarized/stole from that other dude, the one that wears the suit with huge question marks.
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Something tells me you should know what you're talking about before you post. Oh wait....that fact has never changed and you have never learned so why hold out hope for the future?
Something tells me you should know what you're talking about before you post. Oh wait....that fact has never changed and you have never learned so why hold out hope for the future?
Did you read his post and the posts he quoted? He was talking about OP, not people on welfare.
You have to admit, if you're standing there in the grocery store aisle trying to figure out if you can afford a $2 box of cereal... is your income really high enough to be worrying about what your tax dollars are being used for?
I don't think I've met anyone that pays any sort of significant amount in taxes and has to budget an extra couple bucks for cereal.
I'm not an expert by any means, so I could be totally off the mark here.
Did you read his post and the posts he quoted? He was talking about OP, not people on welfare.
You have to admit, if you're standing there in the grocery store aisle trying to figure out if you can afford a $2 box of cereal... is your income really high enough to be worrying about what your tax dollars are being used for?
I don't think I've met anyone that pays any sort of significant amount in taxes and has to budget an extra couple bucks for cereal.
I'm not an expert by any means, so I could be totally off the mark here.
No one in this country would go hungry, everyone would have 3 squares a day.
Everyone would be provided (unless allergic)
Breakfast: regular cheeroes or wheaties, milk and a banana
Lunch: salad + cheese sandwich
Dinner: Spagetti
These would be provided free of charge to anyone who needs. The idea being you make it cheap, filling and bland and every meal the same. Sooner or later you will get so sick and tired of eating the same meal and try to get off welfare just not to eat the same carp everyday.
Though if you are content to eat the same thing or too poor to do so, then its not a high cost expense.
No one in this country would go hungry, everyone would have 3 squares a day.
Everyone would be provided (unless allergic)
Breakfast: regular cheeroes or wheaties, milk and a banana
Lunch: salad + cheese sandwich
Dinner: Spagetti
These would be provided free of charge to anyone who needs. The idea being you make it cheap, filling and bland and every meal the same. Sooner or later you will get so sick and tired of eating the same meal and try to get off welfare just not to eat the same carp everyday.
Though if you are content to eat the same thing or too poor to do so, then its not a high cost expense.
Did you read his post and the posts he quoted? He was talking about OP, not people on welfare.
To your question though.....does anyone you know really take 'only' the 'can I afford it' question into account because they really don't have the money to buy a $2 box of cereal and pay the light bill? I don't think so. I bet it's more like I look at some things, like 'do I want to pay that kind of price for that? Maybe I want to put those dollars more towards X' Or sometimes I use the reward system with myself. I like to eat healthy so I'll tell myself....'if I don't buy that then I can put that $2 towards those cowboy boots or X because I'm sticking with my healthy plan.' Maybe I see it differently but then I'm a different person, so that should be expected.
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Well in first place I don't see any boxes of (name brand) cereal for $2!
To your question though.....does anyone you know really take 'only' the 'can I afford it' question into account because they really don't have the money to buy a $2 box of cereal and pay the light bill? I don't think so. I bet it's more like I look at some things, like 'do I want to pay that kind of price for that? Maybe I want to put those dollars more towards X' Or sometimes I use the reward system with myself. I like to eat healthy so I'll tell myself....'if I don't buy that then I can put that $2 towards those cowboy boots or X because I'm sticking with my healthy plan.' Maybe I see it differently but then I'm a different person, so that should be expected.