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Smoking Ban and Termination
September 17, 2012 at
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In Illinois we have had a smoking ban for over 4 years which is long enough for everyone to have heard of in our state. I servie copy machines and do network maintenance and am being forced to go into an accounting firm in Central IL that feels that the smoking ban does not apply to them. The building smells, there is heavy smoke in the air, and the owner is kind of like a dragon. She doesn't even have a cigarette in her hand but she still will have smoke pouring out of her mouth after speaking 2 complete sentences.
Can I be fired for reporting them to the authorities and for letting them know that the reason I am unable to give them good service is due to the fact that I feel ill and get a migraine while in the office and cannot perform under the current circumstances?
Can I be fired for reporting them to the authorities and for letting them know that the reason I am unable to give them good service is due to the fact that I feel ill and get a migraine while in the office and cannot perform under the current circumstances?
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It seems that many bars were thriving when smoking was allowed.
If there was such a demand for non-smoking bars, how come few (if any) were ever started.
Seems like it would've been very profitable to have the only non-smoking bar in town if that's what people really wanted.
Oh yea, it was people that DIDN'T GO TO BARS that decided smoking should not be allowed in them.
So they pass this ban.. In our city, businesses suffered because all the smokers started patronizing bars outside the city.. So the fix was to ban smoking in the whole state..
Why can't each individual bar decide to be smoking or non-smoking (same with resturants)?
Another parallel in your argument that I'm not sure you realize you're making for me is that you stated something about it being legal to discharge your weapon as long as it's more than 100 feet away from any dwelling. WHY do you think they added that last part in there, rather than just say everyone can fire their gun willy nilly wherever and whenever they feel like it? Because it becomes a safety issue that infringes on the rights of others...which is coincidentally the exact same thing I'm saying about smoking. Sure business owner's should have the right to do it, but not in enclosed spaces where it affects others. (edit...there are always exceptions to the rule though, like hookah lounges, cigar shops, possibly even bars, etc. that I would be perfectly fine with those type businesses asking for exemption status if approved by vote/legislation/or whatever other means would be needed)
On a lighter note though, I do find it amusing that the smoker is defending the non-smoker's rights, and vice versa....
It gives me a headache and makes my sinuses go bonkers. I'm glad they are cracking down on it in public places.
They have had people routinely sneak things in past the TSA (in organized tests).
Yet, all that justifies removing our shoes, not being able to pack liquids, nail clippers being "weapons", etc, etc..
It's really disgusting the rights we have told people they have which infringe on the rights of others. Just today I heard a story of a school that has now prohibited Father/Daughter dances because a single mom filed a lawsuit via the ACLU claiming gender discrimination. So now all of those daughters looking forward to a night with their fathers will suffer.
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Another parallel in your argument that I'm not sure you realize you're making for me is that you stated something about it being legal to discharge your weapon as long as it's more than 100 feet away from any dwelling. WHY do you think they added that last part in there, rather than just say everyone can fire their gun willy nilly wherever and whenever they feel like it? Because it becomes a safety issue that infringes on the rights of others...which is coincidentally the exact same thing I'm saying about smoking. Sure business owner's should have the right to do it, but not in enclosed spaces where it affects others. (edit...there are always exceptions to the rule though, like hookah lounges, cigar shops, possibly even bars, etc. that I would be perfectly fine with those type businesses asking for exemption status if approved by vote/legislation/or whatever other means would be needed)
On a lighter note though, I do find it amusing that the smoker is defending the non-smoker's rights, and vice versa....
And I'm an on/off smoker. I still think it's disgusting, but sometimes, there's nothing more relaxing.....especially after a 10 mile run.
And I'm an on/off smoker. I still think it's disgusting, but sometimes, there's nothing more relaxing.....especially after a 10 mile run.
how about someone just fires there gun at the business owners smoking indoors? problem solved
how about someone just fires there gun at the business owners smoking indoors? problem solved
It seems that many bars were thriving when smoking was allowed.
If there was such a demand for non-smoking bars, how come few (if any) were ever started.
Seems like it would've been very profitable to have the only non-smoking bar in town if that's what people really wanted.
Oh yea, it was people that DIDN'T GO TO BARS that decided smoking should not be allowed in them.
So they pass this ban.. In our city, businesses suffered because all the smokers started patronizing bars outside the city.. So the fix was to ban smoking in the whole state..
Why can't each individual bar decide to be smoking or non-smoking (same with resturants)?
These laws are made to try to reduce public health problems (the closing of bath houses etc). Hell by the logic you are posing we should let kids smoke
Yes the laws are NOT fair for smokers
It seems that many bars were thriving when smoking was allowed.
If there was such a demand for non-smoking bars, how come few (if any) were ever started.
Seems like it would've been very profitable to have the only non-smoking bar in town if that's what people really wanted.
Oh yea, it was people that DIDN'T GO TO BARS that decided smoking should not be allowed in them.
So they pass this ban.. In our city, businesses suffered because all the smokers started patronizing bars outside the city.. So the fix was to ban smoking in the whole state..
Why can't each individual bar decide to be smoking or non-smoking (same with resturants)?
And I'm an on/off smoker. I still think it's disgusting, but sometimes, there's nothing more relaxing.....especially after a 10 mile run.
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