I was just CHARGED for trying on a pair of shoes. UPDATE ON POST #431

I would also like to point out that none of us knows the entire story here and that it really isn't a good idea for people to fly off the handle at a business based on a lounge posting.

I am appalled at the way some slick dealers have been encouraging others to harrass the store. The User who posted this had remedies available to her and continues to have remedies available to her including calling the owner of the store, writing a letter and asking for some kind of refund, and many others as pointed out.

Are you folks aware of the impact that a thread like this can have? Have many of you have called the store? I called and found out that that the man and his family are essentially under siege. I believe him because I talked with him for more than an hour and he was genuinely distressed by the calls from all over the country of an unpleasant nature making shrill accusations based on nothing more than something they read. I won't go into detail about the alleged incident involving the OP because by now, that is an entirely other issue, one that she can settle herself by calling the owner. He was very kind and took the time to explain his entire business to me including the policy in question.

However, this has now become about something other than one person's complaint. It has become a call to arms and that's just not right. Ask yourself, do you really know the facts? Do you know them well enough to justify trying to cause harm to a business and its owner? I think not.

What I do ask is for those of you with time on your hands to consider the impact your calls and threats are having on a small business. Someone posted the guy's charity email and apparently slick dealers and guests flooded that box with taunts and threats. In talking to the owner, I learned that even his family has been impacted. He is a small business owner just trying to make a living. If there was or is an issue with the OP, the OP has been given good advice as to how to address it. If indeed the Chicago Sun Times is involved, she will have her 15 minutes of fame. When I called the Chicago Sun Times, they told me they were not doing a story on this issue but then, maybe they just haven't scheduled it yet.

I say let it drop. Stop calling the store. Stop emailing the guy. Stop going into the store and and hassling salespeople. let the OP and the reporter sort this out or better yet, let the OP deal with the store directly. Something that doesn't appear to have happened.

Just remember, anyone can post anything on the net for whatever reason. I would discourage other consumers from posting such rants on slick deals until AFTER they have tried to resolve the issue or if you need advise on how to resolve it, refrain from naming the business until after an attempt has been made to resolve the issue. The kind of harrassment that this thread has unleashed may in fact be criminal.

I know we all hate getting ripped off. However, after reading this ENTIRE thread, I am not convinced that anyone has been ripped off nor am I convinced that the issue is worth attention it has received.

I KNOW that the phone calls, threats and emails as well as hassle visits to the store are totally uncalled for and I call on the OP to denounce the harrassment of this man and his family and to ask you all to stop it. It's the least she can do.

I would also like to point out that none of us knows the entire story here and that it really isn't a good idea for people to fly off the handle at a business based on a lounge posting.

I am appalled at the way some slick dealers have been encouraging others to harrass the store. The User who posted this had remedies available to her and continues to have remedies available to her including calling the owner of the store, writing a letter and asking for some kind of refund, and many others as pointed out.

Are you folks aware of the impact that a thread like this can have? Have many of you have called the store? I called and found out that that the man and his family are essentially under siege. I believe him because I talked with him for more than an hour and he was genuinely distressed by the calls from all over the country of an unpleasant nature making shrill accusations based on nothing more than something they read. I won't go into detail about the alleged incident involving the OP because by now, that is an entirely other issue, one that she can settle herself by calling the owner. He was very kind and took the time to explain his entire business to me including the policy in question.

However, this has now become about something other than one person's complaint. It has become a call to arms and that's just not right. Ask yourself, do you really know the facts? Do you know them well enough to justify trying to cause harm to a business and its owner? I think not.

What I do ask is for those of you with time on your hands to consider the impact your calls and threats are having on a small business. Someone posted the guy's charity email and apparently slick dealers and guests flooded that box with taunts and threats. In talking to the owner, I learned that even his family has been impacted. He is a small business owner just trying to make a living. If there was or is an issue with the OP, the OP has been given good advice as to how to address it. If indeed the Chicago Sun Times is involved, she will have her 15 minutes of fame. When I called the Chicago Sun Times, they told me they were not doing a story on this issue but then, maybe they just haven't scheduled it yet.

I say let it drop. Stop calling the store. Stop emailing the guy. Stop going into the store and and hassling salespeople. let the OP and the reporter sort this out or better yet, let the OP deal with the store directly. Something that doesn't appear to have happened.

Just remember, anyone can post anything on the net for whatever reason. I would discourage other consumers from posting such rants on slick deals until AFTER they have tried to resolve the issue or if you need advise on how to resolve it, refrain from naming the business until after an attempt has been made to resolve the issue. The kind of harrassment that this thread has unleashed may in fact be criminal.

I know we all hate getting ripped off. However, after reading this ENTIRE thread, I am not convinced that anyone has been ripped off nor am I convinced that the issue is worth attention it has received.

I KNOW that the phone calls, threats and emails as well as hassle visits to the store are totally uncalled for and I call on the OP to denounce the harrassment of this man and his family and to ask you all to stop it. It's the least she can do.

I would also like to point out that none of us knows the entire story here and that it really isn't a good idea for people to fly off the handle at a business based on a lounge posting.

I am appalled at the way some slick dealers have been encouraging others to harrass the store. The User who posted this had remedies available to her and continues to have remedies available to her including calling the owner of the store, writing a letter and asking for some kind of refund, and many others as pointed out.

Are you folks aware of the impact that a thread like this can have? Have many of you have called the store? I called and found out that that the man and his family are essentially under siege. I believe him because I talked with him for more than an hour and he was genuinely distressed by the calls from all over the country of an unpleasant nature making shrill accusations based on nothing more than something they read. I won't go into detail about the alleged incident involving the OP because by now, that is an entirely other issue, one that she can settle herself by calling the owner. He was very kind and took the time to explain his entire business to me including the policy in question.

However, this has now become about something other than one person's complaint. It has become a call to arms and that's just not right. Ask yourself, do you really know the facts? Do you know them well enough to justify trying to cause harm to a business and its owner? I think not.

What I do ask is for those of you with time on your hands to consider the impact your calls and threats are having on a small business. Someone posted the guy's charity email and apparently slick dealers and guests flooded that box with taunts and threats. In talking to the owner, I learned that even his family has been impacted. He is a small business owner just trying to make a living. If there was or is an issue with the OP, the OP has been given good advice as to how to address it. If indeed the Chicago Sun Times is involved, she will have her 15 minutes of fame. When I called the Chicago Sun Times, they told me they were not doing a story on this issue but then, maybe they just haven't scheduled it yet.

I say let it drop. Stop calling the store. Stop emailing the guy. Stop going into the store and and hassling salespeople. let the OP and the reporter sort this out or better yet, let the OP deal with the store directly. Something that doesn't appear to have happened.

Just remember, anyone can post anything on the net for whatever reason. I would discourage other consumers from posting such rants on slick deals until AFTER they have tried to resolve the issue or if you need advise on how to resolve it, refrain from naming the business until after an attempt has been made to resolve the issue. The kind of harrassment that this thread has unleashed may in fact be criminal.

I know we all hate getting ripped off. However, after reading this ENTIRE thread, I am not convinced that anyone has been ripped off nor am I convinced that the issue is worth attention it has received.

I KNOW that the phone calls, threats and emails as well as hassle visits to the store are totally uncalled for and I call on the OP to denounce the harrassment of this man and his family and to ask you all to stop it. It's the least she can do.

Nuala'sMom, ..did you ask him if his store had that $20 charge policy?

I think that can be confirmed by all the other people who called and asked.

You know this whole thread is documented, NEVER did I ask anyone to call or harrassment. I'm not a lounge regular, but I'm a regular of this board. I NEVER imagined this would have come to this but you know what? I think the owner is now realizing it was only a matter of time that he could charge people $20 for trying on shoes and not tell them up front before someone fought back. Its just as simple as that. I WAS RIPPED OFF. Had I have been AWARE of this upfront, that would be different.

And for whatever reason NualasMom wants to make me out to be a liar about this I don't know, but I JUST faxed Stephanie Zimmerman the receipt and info she needed YESTERDAY at 5.. so saying that the Chicago Sun Times isn't doing a story on this is completely pointless.

I wonder what Nuala's Mom's true agenda is...

I did not call the OP a liar. I merely suggested that as strangers, we do not know the entire story. People post things for a variety of reasons. The OP's reaction only makes me wonder further about HER true agenda. Does she want to file a lawsuit against this guy? Bring his business to its knees, what?

Any thinking person reading this thread was free to investigate her charges. i did so. The paper claimed they knew NOTHING about it but I added that often Newspapers don't know for sure if a story is being covered until; its scheduled to run.

My angle? I am a writer. I often cover consumer affairs locally where I live. I smelled a story so I pursued it.

I DID ask the owner about the policy and he explained it to me at length. The policy exists but it is not quite as the OP portrayed it. I asked him if the woman who was charged had filed a complaint with the store and he said no, b ut that he had been the recipient of dozens of threatening calls that have frightend his family.

PhoebesMeow, you can stop this criminal harrassment of the man and his business by stating without any other snide remarks to me the following:



That's all you have to do PhoebesMeow. If you don't, people may presume that you wish them to continue. You don't want to be responsible for their acts do you? Disown them now and make sure everyone knows you don't approve. People are assuming you DO approve and are acting on your behalf with or without your knowledge. Do the right thing. Pursue this privately and then report back AFTER it is resolved. Nothing will be resolved if the guy's store is under siege.

I live in California and have written about internet bullying. This thread falls into that category. One person posts a rant, others suggest good options to resolve while some suggest harrassment. Cooler heads don't prevail and soon dozens of people are calling for harassment of the store all based on the mere allegation of some misdeed. I don't know PhoebesMeow, but I'd like to think she would never have posted here if she had known it would lead to this kind of bullying and harassment. She has the power to stop it just as easily as it started. Use that power only for good!

No crap..pass that on over


Feeling better JB007?

... If you don't, people may presume that you wish them to continue. You don't want to be responsible for their acts do you? Disown them now and make sure everyone knows you don't approve. People are assuming you DO approve and are acting on your behalf with or without your knowledge. Do the right thing. Pursue this privately and then report back AFTER it is resolved. Nothing will be resolved if the guy's store is under siege.

I live in California and have written about internet bullying. This thread falls into that category. One person posts a rant, others suggest good options to resolve while some suggest harrassment. Cooler heads don't prevail and soon dozens of people are calling for harassment of the store all based on the mere allegation of some misdeed. I don't know PhoebesMeow, but I'd like to think she would never have posted here if she had known it would lead to this kind of bullying and harassment. She has the power to stop it just as easily as it started. Use that power only for good!