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Applebee’s fires waitress who posted receipt from pastor complaining about auto-tip

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An Applebee's waitress who posted a receipt with a note from a pastor complaining about the automatic gratuity added to the bill on the Internet was fired on Wednesday after the pastor complained to her manager.

Chelsea Welch, the waitress, wrote in an email to Yahoo News that the pastor (who has since been identified as Alois Bell) told Welch's manager at the St. Louis-area Applebee's that the ensuing firestorm had "ruined" her reputation.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sides...20748.html


The female pastor has also has written a 28-page volume examines spiritual nourishment, complete with references to candy and junk food. The $10 paperback is titled "Watch the Hand that Feeds You." From her size, it appears she doesn't like to follows her own advice.





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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/docu...zes-687234
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redmaxx
02-05-2013 at 01:55 PM.
02-05-2013 at 01:55 PM.
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Well, that's not fair to say though...Imagine how full the prisons would be if having McDonalds on back-to-back days was illegal. You have no idea, because a lot of the people that do it now would stop.

If they made defaulting on your loans illegal, people wouldn't get into the "dream house in which the monthly payment is 3x our monthly income" situation. I am sure the banks would still approve you for it, though laugh out loud

People would still default...it happens...but there would be a LOT more people trying to solve it on the front end (if your life is turned upside down, proactively contacting the bank) and a LOT more people buying houses they could comfortably afford.
It would probably curb the excessive "investment" properties, but regular people would have still gone to jail en masse because of the sheer size of the economic hole we were in.

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So was it not illegal to steal gas back in the days when you paid AFTER you pumped?

The gas station willingly let you take the gas and put it into your car...maybe you messed up and put in too much. They willfully let you fill up your car...they even gave you instructions on the pump as to how to do it...you just didn't have any money on you.
Hmm, not sure.
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02-05-2013 at 01:59 PM.
02-05-2013 at 01:59 PM.
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Wow, and here I thought we have exhausted all possible tipping topics.
Whatever gave you that idea!?
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Curtieson
02-05-2013 at 02:07 PM.
02-05-2013 at 02:07 PM.
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It would probably curb the excessive "investment" properties, but regular people would have still gone to jail en masse because of the sheer size of the economic hole we were in.
But we are in the economic hole BECAUSE of house foreclosures. Whee It's all just pie in the sky...no real answer.

You'd think 'being thrown out on the streets and ruining your credit' would be enough of a reason to not get over your head on a house loan...yet I bet there will be a couple foreclosures in my town today nonetheless because 'everyone deserves a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th/5th/6th chance.' laugh out loud but Sadwalk
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02-05-2013 at 02:09 PM.
02-05-2013 at 02:09 PM.
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But we are in the economic hole BECAUSE of house foreclosures. Whee It's all just pie in the sky...no real answer.

You'd think 'being thrown out on the streets and ruining your credit' would be enough of a reason to not get over your head on a house loan...yet I bet there will be a couple foreclosures in my town today nonetheless because 'everyone deserves a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th/5th/6th chance.' laugh out loud but Sadwalk
No, we're in a hole because the bad assets were wrapped up in a fancy bow for investors the world over to dump their money into.
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02-05-2013 at 02:12 PM.
02-05-2013 at 02:12 PM.
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This doesn't make any sense. You cannot be arrested for not paying a debt.
You can as it depends on intent, fraud, deceit.
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02-05-2013 at 02:19 PM.
02-05-2013 at 02:19 PM.
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But we are in the economic hole BECAUSE of house foreclosures. Whee It's all just pie in the sky...no real answer.
Even if that was the whole answer, people still would have found some other way to overleverage themselves because of loose regulation, throwing millions of honest, hardworking people under the bus.

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You can as it depends on intent, fraud, deceit.
Hmm, hadn't considered that... I think though it would be hard to prove intent to defraud based on itty bitty print on the back of the menu vaguely denoting an "automatic 18% gratuity".
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02-05-2013 at 02:35 PM.
02-05-2013 at 02:35 PM.
Way I look at it is goods vs. services. You fill your car up with gas at the station and dont pay, that is a good. You are stealing. A criminal matter. You agree to have Jose mow your lawn for $10, you're not paying him for his fuel, wear and tear on his mower, etc. You're paying for the service of him mowing your lawn. A service. A civil matter. Same applies in this case. If you eat at a restaurant, and dont pay for the food, that is stealing. Tips/gratuity is entirely optional, and a payment for a service. Even if the restaurant tries to illegally tack on a forced gratuity based on number of persons. If you don't pay it, it is not a criminal matter.
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