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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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TigerStar
08-30-2007 at 10:44 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:44 AM.
Exactly punkie, they didn't ask her NOT to breastfeed, they asked her to cover up.
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08-30-2007 at 10:44 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from punkie :
I wouldn't want to see that either when I am out for lunch. Is it really that much to ask that she bring a blanket or else go to the restroom to breastfeed? I don't think so and I don't get why she was so humiliated. Because people pointed out she was breastfeeding? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) She was afterall in a public place people are gonna look. And this is just comical shake head "That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.
But if you don't like it, you don't have to look. Look the other way, look at your food, look at the ceiling. She was facing the corner, so you couldn't see all the details anyway, so why does it bother you?
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TigerStar
08-30-2007 at 10:46 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:46 AM.
So if I want to fling my penis around in public, it's ok? If you don't like it, don't look. If I want to masturbate, it's ok!
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appleyum
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
Quote from IVIax :
Why would someone complain though? You don't like it don't look at it, it's that simple.
Dontknow Could be many reasons, religious, old fashion, culture, modesty, found it offensive, disgusted, disturb their eating, don't want their little children to see, taboo, etc. Some people don't like to self censor.
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punkie
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
Quote from IVIax :
But if you don't like it, you don't have to look. Look the other way, look at your food, look at the ceiling. She was facing the corner, so you couldn't see all the details anyway, so why does it bother you?
I don't have to stare at her the entire time one glance is enough for me to want to ask her to cover herself with a blanket.
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finzz2dlft
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:49 AM.
That's the problem with this country. Everyone focuses on a woman's breasts as being strictly sexual. Breasts, first and foremost, are to nurse a baby! In other parts of the world, this would be a non-issue.
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~Kimber~
08-30-2007 at 10:51 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:51 AM.
Can I just break this down before all the arguments start?

Some people don't give a shit if someone breastfeeds and thinks it is every woman's right and some people don't like to look at it and want the mothers to cover up.

That's the way it is and neither side will ever budge.
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Just Peachy
08-30-2007 at 10:53 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:53 AM.
Quote from TigerStar :
That's her agenda. She knew she would be questioned on it and had the pamphlet at the ready. She wanting to once again force government into making PRIVATE business owners do their bidding.
I think she probably had the pamphlet on her for times such as this, but, coming prepared with a pamphlet and not a cover is stupidity right there. I'm going to chalk this up to her just biting herself in the ass. To have the foresight to carry a pamphlet and not a cover is ludicrous.

Max, even though she was in a corner doesn't keep people from noticing that the baby is crying for attention nor that she's moving stuff around to make room for the kid on her lap. She may have flashed someone in her effort because she didn't have a cover for herself. When she's older she'll reflect on it all and be embarrassed that she was so cavalier about it. Providing nutrition for your child shouldn't be an embarrassment but not being modest while doing it is immature.
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08-30-2007 at 10:54 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:54 AM.
I was a breast feeding mother. I have a six year old who breast feed for a year and a set of twins who I did my best to nurse as much as possible. I was discrete. I choose the back corner or some less populated location, and I never tandem feed outside my house (impossible to do discretely) If I could I would cover with a blanket, but that isn't as easy as it sounds. Half the time they pull it off. You are best to get in a discrete position and make that work. When the baby is eating, you can't see anything anyway. They are covering up your boob. It is only the 10 secs of latching on or pulling off, that you might get a glimpse. Look elsewhere, there are more exciting things going on in the restaurant.
Going to the bathroom is simply not an option. Where am I supposed to sit....on the toliet. How gross is that! Yes, some bathrooms for women have couches and such and when they were available I did use them. For the most part this was not available, certainly never in a restaurant. And in reality what am I supposed to do with the other two kids. What is my four year old (at the time) supposed to do in a bathroom for 30-40 minutes (breastfeeding twins is time consuming) When am I supposed to eat. If you think it through, it doesn't make sense to shun breast feeding mothers to the bathroom.
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~Kimber~
08-30-2007 at 10:55 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:55 AM.
This is an excellent video that will help clarify this for many: Click here [youtube.com]
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finzz2dlft
08-30-2007 at 10:56 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:56 AM.
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
This is an excellent video that will help clarify this for many: Click here [youtube.com]
That was indeed thought provoking and informative! However, I think I got flashed. I need to watch it a few more times to be sure.
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08-30-2007 at 10:59 AM.
08-30-2007 at 10:59 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
Dontknow Could be many reasons, religious, old fashion, culture, modesty, found it offensive, disgusted, disturb their eating, don't want their little children to see, taboo, etc. Some people have don't like to self censor.
Couldn't the same logic apply the other around as well (towards the breast feeding woman?) Why does it have to go one way only?



Quote from punkie :
I don't have to stare at her the entire time one glance is enough for me to want to ask her to cover herself with a blanket.
Would you come up to women wearing short skirts and her them to cover up?

Or people wearing offensive shirts (that have curse words or other things on them) and ask them to cover up?

And if you do, then who decides what's right and what's wrong? It's a free country isn't it? Shouldn't then she be allowed to breast feed in public -- it's not like she's walking around showing her nipple to everyone.
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08-30-2007 at 11:01 AM.
08-30-2007 at 11:01 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
That was indeed thought provoking and informative! However, I think I got flashed. I need to watch it a few more times to be sure.
I see you are not viewing this informative video in the proper frame of mind. Next time, squint your eyes and view it through 3-D glasses. You will get so much more out of it! Thumbup
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gobygoby
08-30-2007 at 11:01 AM.
08-30-2007 at 11:01 AM.
regardless of a complaint.....who the hell wants to see that. seriously. boobies are called private parts for a reason...I have a little boy, yes my wife went through the stages of breast feeding, but guess what folks, when we went into public, she would take some breast milk in a bottle and feed that so she didnt have to feed from the teet.

oh , and that fact that she had the legal document about the laws in hand...tells me the lady was looking for an excuse to sue.

I think I am going to go to walmart, look for a puddle of water and accidentally slip and fall then sue that pants of the them...

...what a joke.
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08-30-2007 at 11:02 AM.
08-30-2007 at 11:02 AM.
My penis's main purpose is to pro-create. Want me to swing it around in public?
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