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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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z2g
08-30-2007 at 12:47 PM.
08-30-2007 at 12:47 PM.
Quote from TigerStar :
Let's end this this way....

For the ladies that think it is okay to breast feed in public, please attach pictures of yourself in the act. Since it is beautiful and nothing wrong with it, all of you should be quick to comply.
I TOTALLY concur!Smilie
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z2g
08-30-2007 at 12:53 PM.
08-30-2007 at 12:53 PM.
Quote from Melmo :
Thanks Aggie. It clearly states in what you posted that She does NOT have to cover up at all! That it is not considered indecent exposure at all.
BUT, for the establishment's sake, if other patrons are complaining, it would be polite for that woman to cover up. She may not have to but it's just the courteous thing to do. Likewise, freedom of speech is fundamental in our Constitition. HOWEVER, if a person walked into a restaurant with curse words or other offensive words written on his/her shirt, the establishment has a right to ask him/her to cover up or leave.

YET, because it involves women and babies, it is justified....the hypocrisy!

Quote from averyzoe :
I am personally offended by seeing someone feed their baby formula. Breastfeeding has been shown clearly and consistently to be infinitely better for the child, and barring uncommon complications, it seems to be an act of selfishness not to give your baby the very best start in life. I am offended-but if I complain, do you think the manager would ask a bottlefeeder to cover their baby up so I don't have to see?
It all boils down to seeing breasts as primarily sexual objects; when they are meant to be primarily for feeding. Yes, some people see them as only sexual-but if some people have a foot fetish, all people should not be required to cover their feet to prevent them from being aroused. It is their respoonsibility to control themselves-whether there are bare feet around or not. Same thing with breasts. I really don't see why a female breast has to be covered when a make breast does not. Very little aesthetic difference.
Please.....you forget that ppl can still pump and feed their babies breast milk. Also, some women are unable to produce breast milk. Do you want to put them out in back and shoot them now?!?!?!? Offended........please! If you're a woman, I would be offended that you have so little understanding in the matter and it's so black and white to you.

Quote from averyzoe :
picture:

http://www.noodad.com/cms/images/...small1.jpg
We want a pic of YOU! SILLY!
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MrsTrish
08-30-2007 at 12:54 PM.
08-30-2007 at 12:54 PM.
Newborns is easy to be discreet, 7 month olds? Not so much.
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Just Peachy
08-30-2007 at 12:57 PM.
08-30-2007 at 12:57 PM.
Quote from TigerStar :
Let's end this this way....

For the ladies that think it is okay to breast feed in public, please attach pictures of yourself in the act. Since it is beautiful and nothing wrong with it, all of you should be quick to comply.
This isn't show and tell and if you want to see what it looks like, ask your wives to demonstrate. Better yet, now that Aggiemom has posted some pics, show them to your son and explain that some children are fed this way and beat him to the punch. nod
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appleyum
08-30-2007 at 01:02 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:02 PM.
Ugly Woman = Complain
Pretty woman = no Complain

Remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRoFzT2slcM
Applies to women as well nod
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waterlily
08-30-2007 at 01:03 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:03 PM.
Quote from z2g :
I think you're missing my point. I have no problems with my wife breastfeeding. HOWEVER, I'll be blunt with you. Other men who see another woman breastfeeding will see just one thing......WOW, free boobie show! That's men for you! It does NOT matter if the act is a "beautiful" and "natural" thing. It's still nudity and it's still breasts.

As some have stated too, the whole female form is beautiful and natural to me too. Yet, there are laws against public nudity. Just because it's in the act of breastfeeding doesn't make nudity ok. Sex is a beautiful and natural thing too.....the same argument applies!
The things are being put to the use they were intended!!! Just because men go ga ga over ta tas is not an excuse to somehow think that breastfeeding is some deviant behavior! Geez. And to those of you concerned how to explain it to your own children, you are perpetuating the problem. It's OK for women to go get breast implants to be more sexually attractive to men, yet breastfeeding is wrong? Amazing. And just who decided men could go topless, but a woman topless was something indecent? Men perhaps? What a double standard!

My breasts are not indecent! In fact they are quite fabulous! Stick Out Tongue Big Grin
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emelvee
08-30-2007 at 01:08 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:08 PM.
I thought this was something about Appleyum breastfeeding.
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Just Peachy
08-30-2007 at 01:12 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:12 PM.
Quote from appleyum :
Ugly Woman vs Pretty woman

Remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRoFzT2slcM
Applies to women as well nod
Annoyed WTH?

Scratchchin

What are you trying to say... exactly? Is someone at work harrassing you?? Mad

Quote from emelvee :
I thought this was something about Appleyum breastfeeding.
Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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appleyum
08-30-2007 at 01:15 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:15 PM.
Quote from Peachyum :
Annoyed WTH?

Scratchchin

What are you trying to say... exactly? Is someone at work harrassing you?? Mad

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
All the shouting nod Wink
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shhaggy
08-30-2007 at 01:20 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:20 PM.
If she's allowed to, I should be allowed to. Don't complain when I hang out with my wang out.
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~Kimber~
08-30-2007 at 01:23 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:23 PM.
Quote from shhaggy :
If she's allowed to, I should be allowed to. Don't complain when I hang out with my wang out.
Who ya planning on feeding with it?
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Just Peachy
08-30-2007 at 01:24 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:24 PM.
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
Who ya planning on feeding with it?
I presumed it was his dog while taking it for a walk. I think he has a kid, but I'm fairly certain that other laws will kick into play on that one.
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killerbootsman
08-30-2007 at 01:26 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:26 PM.
Did she just compare herself to Rosa Parks?


What a crackwhore.
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~Kimber~
08-30-2007 at 01:28 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:28 PM.
Quote from Peachyum :
I presumed it was his dog while taking it for a walk. I think he has a kid, but I'm fairly certain that other laws will kick into play on that one.
One can only hope. laugh out loud
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STLUCIELADY
08-30-2007 at 01:55 PM.
08-30-2007 at 01:55 PM.
I don't get it. I breast fed 2 kids and very rarely had to do it in public, especially by the time they were older than 4 months. Kids have a schedule by then. They are also eating cereal and food and juices and all sorts of stuff other than breast milk. If we went to a restaurant and the baby got hungry at an inopportune time, I would give them an alternative food. By 5 months they are pretty good with a sippy cup. By 7 months they are really eating alot of different stuff. A sippy cup, cut up bananas and cherrios can go a long way while they sit in a high chair. Jeez lady, get with it. Forget about carrying the pamphlet and start planning better. If she was being so discreet, why would someone be able to see her enough to complain? Dontknow
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