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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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08-30-2007 at 04:55 PM.
08-30-2007 at 04:55 PM.
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08-30-2007 at 05:20 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:20 PM.
Sweet jesus.

Its a freaking boob you don't even see. Grow up.
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08-30-2007 at 05:36 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:36 PM.
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Sweet jesus.

Its a freaking boob you don't even see. Grow up.
I've tried several analogies but here's the last one that I hope will let ppl understand the point. Let's say a male goes into a restaurant sans any shirt. Does the establishment and patrons have a right to make that person put on a shirt or leave the restaurant? I think most will agree that the patrons has every right to not want to see a shirtless guy while they are eating. And, the restaurant has every right to tell that guy to put his shirt on. Now, we're are ALSO talking about breasts....male breasts.
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08-30-2007 at 05:38 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:38 PM.
Quote from z2g :
I've tried several analogies but here's the last one that I hope will let ppl understand the point. Let's say a male goes into a restaurant sans any shirt. Does the establishment and patrons have a right to make that person put on a shirt or leave the restaurant? I think most will agree that the patrons has every right to not want to see a shirtless guy while they are eating. And, the restaurant has every right to tell that guy to put his shirt on. Now, we're are ALSO talking about breasts....male breasts.
Are you talking about my moobs???
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08-30-2007 at 05:38 PM.
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Quote from z2g :
I've tried several analogies but here's the last one that I hope will let ppl understand the point. Let's say a male goes into a restaurant sans any shirt. Does the establishment and patrons have a right to make that person put on a shirt or leave the restaurant? I think most will agree that the patrons has every right to not want to see a shirtless guy while they are eating. And, the restaurant has every right to tell that guy to put his shirt on. Now, we're are ALSO talking about breasts....male breasts.
Is it Ewan McGregor or John Stamos going shirtless? If so...I'll go sit on their laps and hide their chests woot
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08-30-2007 at 05:38 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:38 PM.
If the lady was somewhat hot, I don't think anyone would have complained Smilie

For example: If aggiemomx2 was doing it, i dont think anyone would complain, instead, they'd be a little disappointed that she's covering all the goodies Smilie
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08-30-2007 at 05:53 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:53 PM.
Quote from n19htmare :
If the lady was somewhat hot, I don't think anyone would have complained Smilie

For example: If aggiemomx2 was doing it, i dont think anyone would complain, instead, they'd be a little disappointed that she's covering all the goodies Smilie
I don't know if I should be really offended or flattered. Coverlaugh In my defense I was whacked out on pain meds in both pictures. Wink
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08-30-2007 at 05:56 PM.
08-30-2007 at 05:56 PM.
Quote from SlickChik :
Sweet jesus.

Its a freaking boob you don't even see. Grow up.
I knew if you came in here you would tell it like it is. High Five
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08-30-2007 at 06:03 PM.
08-30-2007 at 06:03 PM.
Quote from n19htmare :
If the lady was somewhat hot, I don't think anyone would have complained Smilie

For example: If aggiemomx2 was doing it, i dont think anyone would complain, instead, they'd be a little disappointed that she's covering all the goodies Smilie
If she was hot, I don't think any male in the restaurant would complain. However, I can totally understand if another female (with her children or spouse) complained.

With that article, I'l bet that it was another female (probably an older woman) that complained too!

Hell, if she was a hottie, I'm sure guys would line-up to wait in line for the buffet!Wink
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hawaiiandawn
08-30-2007 at 06:22 PM.
08-30-2007 at 06:22 PM.
z2g, I am surprised at you. Considering your medical background, I figgered you'd be on the breast is best side. Better for the child, better for the mom.
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08-30-2007 at 06:25 PM.
08-30-2007 at 06:25 PM.
Quote from hawaiiandawn :
z2g, I am surprised at you. Considering your medical background, I figgered you'd be on the breast is best side. Better for the child, better for the mom.
why is anyone who agrees she needs to cover up automatically against breast feeding?
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08-30-2007 at 06:26 PM.
08-30-2007 at 06:26 PM.
Quote from arjunsr :
why is anyone who agrees she needs to cover up automatically against breast feeding?
Iagree

I am for breastfeeding. I know it is best for the baby. That is a completely separate issue.

Ok, night all.
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Quote from hawaiiandawn :
z2g, I am surprised at you. Considering your medical background, I figgered you'd be on the breast is best side. Better for the child, better for the mom.
No....as I've tried (and many others) to stress, we are NOT against breastfeeding. My wife is currently breastfeeding. Of course, I know the benefits of breastfeeding versus formula. We are only trying to state that the business and patrons have every right to wish that she covers up her breast with a towel or blanket if she's in plain view. Most ppl do not want to see boobies while having dinner with their family.

Now, if I were with my buddies at Hooters (or any other gentlemen's club), we are all game! However, I don't want to see a woman's engorged breast being suckled while my children are sitting at the table with me trying to enjoy a meal.
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08-30-2007 at 06:32 PM.
08-30-2007 at 06:32 PM.
Quote from arjunsr :
why is anyone who agrees she needs to cover up automatically against breast feeding?
I'm all for her covering up but I'm also for breastfeeding on the child's demand and schedule.

What I really don't understand is that so many people from that other forum who think breasts are the bombdiggety while exposed think having it exposed but with a child attached is absolutely horrible. I think that exemplifies why we in the U.S. don't expose our breasts in public as a rule. Too many people think of them as a sexual playtoy instead of for the purpose we are born with them.
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08-30-2007 at 06:35 PM.
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Quote from z2g :

Now, if I were with my buddies at Hooters (or any other gentlemen's club), we are all game! However, I don't want to see a woman's engorged breast being suckled while my children are sitting at the table with me trying to enjoy a meal.
*sigh* Hooters doesn't expose their waitresses breasts in the restaurant, Z2G, so it would still be the same ol' rant about one woman exposing for her childs' benefit and nobody exposing for yours.
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