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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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Vino24
08-31-2007 at 08:09 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:09 AM.
Is this still going on????? Man, go outside and play or get a more entertaining job or something Smilie

Side note: I agree with the ones apple agrees with. Fo' sho'. Well not #3 enitrely, she should go to the bathroom, or wait until she gets home, or something of the like.
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RugratsGalore
08-31-2007 at 08:09 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:09 AM.
Quote from rally.sport :
fify.
Call it what you want, I call it how I see it.
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myselfdotcom
08-31-2007 at 08:10 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:10 AM.
go ahead and fed them...dont mind me watching or taking picture hehhe
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n30
08-31-2007 at 08:11 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:11 AM.
Quote from Peachyum :
Not that I disagree on your points, but breastmilk "squirting" isn't any more of a biohazard than someone sneezing and not covering their mouths. The chances that a person would actually come in contact with a womans breastmilk are practically nil compared to coming into contact with a noncovered sneezer.
Iagree
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rally.sport
08-31-2007 at 08:18 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:18 AM.
Just as an experiment, I am posting the picture below onto this public forum.

How many people find it offensive?
How many people find it sexual?
How many people find it to be a beautiful and innocent image?
How many people are going to modalert this post?
Will this post get deleted?
Will I get warned?

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JackHandey
08-31-2007 at 08:22 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:22 AM.
Rally, to be honest, I keep getting caught in the loop of comparing the size of the baby's head to the boob. It's mesmorizing.
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RugratsGalore
08-31-2007 at 08:24 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:24 AM.
Quote from rally.sport :
Just as an experiment, I am posting the picture below onto this public forum.

How many people find it offensive?
How many people find it sexual?
How many people find it to be a beautiful and innocent image?
How many people are going to modalert this post?
Will this post get deleted?
Will I get warned?

I don't find it offensive.
I don't find it sexual.
I don't find it beautiful, I find it natural.
I think it's an innocent baby eating his/her meal.
It shouldn't be mod-alerted.
It shouldn't be deleted.
You shouldn't receive a warning.

But, I think you're unfairly comparing situations. It appears in the above picture as if the woman has removed her shirt and bra, which I don't think was the case in Applebee's. So, the woman feeding in Applebee's would have been more descreet than the picture above.
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Fallacy
08-31-2007 at 08:27 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:27 AM.
Quote from rally.sport :
Just as an experiment, I am posting the picture below onto this public forum.

How many people find it offensive?
How many people find it sexual?
How many people find it to be a beautiful and innocent image?
How many people are going to modalert this post?
Will this post get deleted?
Will I get warned?
You will get warned and the post will get deleted, but I will not mod-alert it.

she's not even trying to cover herself, she took her whole breast out and is letting everyone see it. it's not the same thing
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JackHandey
08-31-2007 at 08:39 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:39 AM.
I'm just waiting to see t-shirts that say "Boobies. It's whats for dinner".
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 08:41 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:41 AM.
Quote from Peachyum :
What I really don't understand is that so many people from that other forum who think breasts are the bombdiggety while exposed think having it exposed but with a child attached is absolutely horrible. I think that exemplifies why we in the U.S. don't expose our breasts in public as a rule. Too many people think of them as a sexual playtoy instead of for the purpose we are born with them.
It's more of our American culture. American is predominately run by religion and most religion are against exposing breasts because they consider them as sexual. Our media has reinforce that by making breasts a sexual icon. Men can run around topless but women can't.

Quote from KimbersTimber :
Too bad we could not just adopt a policy of changing the social norm to women walking around topless all the time. That would totally solve the problem. Bigeye
If we did what KimbersTimber said ... there wouldn't be no fuss. How many African native oogle at breasts(ok before they become saggy). They see it everyday so it has become the norm. They don't see anything special about them. How many people stare at cows utters?

Currently breastfeeding is not the norm and most people are not expose to it before...so anytime some mother want to breast feed her baby people will definitely stare. Kind of like first time you seeing car accident on the road while driving. You know are suppose to pay attention to driving but it's unique so you brain couldn't comprehend you continue to stare. Once people get used to it they won't even bother to look.

As for why people would find it disgusting...same reason as before it's not the norm and people are not expose to it every day. Many people were disgusted by gay kissing...now it's on national TV so there is more tolerance and wider acceptance. Pretty soon TV shows will start showing mother breastfeeding her kids. It's a culture shock. People don't like it first but they will accept it once they get used to it.
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 08:50 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:50 AM.
http://www.kentucky.com/211/story/161993.html

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home.
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TigerStar
08-31-2007 at 08:53 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:53 AM.
10 month old??
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finzz2dlft
08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
Currently breastfeeding is not the norm
It isn't? Confused I am not sure what you are basing that statement on.
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Nice talk, sugarmouth...
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Dizzy Devil
08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
Wow, I know I'm late in responding to the poll, but could the poll options be a little more one-sided? LMAO
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08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
08-31-2007 at 08:54 AM.
Quote from TigerStar :
10 month old??
laugh out loud wasn't there a story about a 4 year old still on breast milk on SD a while back?
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