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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 09:34 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Can you make cheese out of breast milk?
Yes next question

Quote from finzz2dlft :
Well, in my case, it's just the opposite. I breast fed, my friends breast fed, my relatives breast fed........in my world, breast feeding *is* the norm.
ask your husband if it's the norm for him

Quote from finzz2dlft :
Unless I am seeing something different from what you are seeing, those numbers look like breast feeding is on the rise over bottle feeding.
Yes... it's working it's way to become the norm.
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punkie
08-31-2007 at 09:35 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:35 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Unless I am seeing something different from what you are seeing, those numbers look like breast feeding is on the rise over bottle feeding.

Breastfeeding Rates in the U.S. per the CDC

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In Hospital
(%) 6 mo
(%) 12 mo
(%) 18 mo
(%)

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2001 65.1
59.3
(7 days) 27.0
7.9
12.3


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2002 -- -- -- --
2003 70.9
62.5

(7 days)
36.2
14.2


17.2
5.7
Goal for 2010
(USA) 75.0 50.0 25.0
here is something newer from an article I just read [msn.com]
"The proportion of mothers who breast-fed in the hospital after their babies were born dropped, from 70 percent in 2002 to 63.6 percent in 2006. In 2002, 33.2 percent of women were doing any breast-feeding at six months; by 2006, that rate had declined to 30 percent."
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finzz2dlft
08-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
ask your husband if it's the norm for him

Yes, he was breast fed, too.
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08-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:36 AM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Can you make cheese out of breast milk?
Yes, and the cheese will go nicely with the whine (err wine) that's in this thread about public breastfeeding LMAO
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veritablequandary
08-31-2007 at 09:39 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
Yes next question
What does it taste like?
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 09:40 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:40 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Yes, he was breast fed, too.
And seeing relative and friends breastfeeding their kids? Bigeye

Quote from veritableqndry :
What does it taste like?
Cheesey, NEXT!!!
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08-31-2007 at 09:41 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:41 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
And seeing relative and friends breastfeeding their kids? Bigeye NEXT!!!
Sure, he has. Why not? Why is it a big deal? I truly don't understand............
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veritablequandary
08-31-2007 at 09:43 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:43 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
Cheesey, NEXT!!!
Is it a hard cheese or a soft cheese?
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PiratesSayARRR
08-31-2007 at 09:44 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:44 AM.
Private business...they have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 09:46 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:46 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Sure, he has. Why not? Why is it a big deal? I truly don't understand............
It's not a big deal...maybe I live in a shelter life or I was neglected when I was little Weeping Crying2 Crying
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08-31-2007 at 09:47 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:47 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Unless I am seeing something different from what you are seeing, those numbers look like breast feeding is on the rise over bottle feeding.
While it is a significant minority (17%, after 1yr 5%), it is still a minority, nonetheless.
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08-31-2007 at 09:48 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:48 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
It's not a big deal...maybe I live in a shelter life or I was neglected when I was little Weeping Crying2 Crying


You were denied boobies Comfort LMAO
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Drio
08-31-2007 at 09:50 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:50 AM.
Quote from finzz2dlft :
Sure, he has. Why not? Why is it a big deal? I truly don't understand............
Yea... I've seen friends/family.. even college friends that never previously let me see their boobies... ain't no thang.

On the topic as a whole... I think both sides are unreasonable. Some folks will always be freaked out by nekid boob... and some moms could be a bit more discreet. No one's violating you by asking you to cover a boob in public...
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AggieMom
08-31-2007 at 09:54 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:54 AM.
Quote from PiratesSayARRR :
Private business...they have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime
Not in this case. Read the law.
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08-31-2007 at 09:55 AM.
08-31-2007 at 09:55 AM.
Quote from PiratesSayARRR :
Private business...they have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime
So, would there be some uproar if all the sudden black people were no longer served at Applebee's or if those with blonde hair were refused service? Should that type of treatment just be shrugged off as no big deal, too?
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