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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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JackHandey
08-31-2007 at 10:56 AM.
08-31-2007 at 10:56 AM.
Quote from z2g :
Once again, this is NOT a pro-breastfeeding/anti-breastfeeding discussion! It is an issue of showing courtesy and modesty for other ppl when asked to do so. That is the bottom line.....NOT breastfeeding or feeding your child....GEEZ!
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 10:57 AM.
08-31-2007 at 10:57 AM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Is it a hard cheese or a soft cheese?
hard when it's cold and soft when it's warm. NEXT!!

Quote from veritableqndry :
What kind of crackers would you serve with it?
OREO or wisecracker. NEXT!!
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~Kimber~
08-31-2007 at 11:02 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:02 AM.
This is the best farking poll ever!! woot

All those options...one point of view! laugh out loud
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z2g
08-31-2007 at 11:02 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:02 AM.
Quote from KimbersTimber :
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Yeah, I just don't understand ppl and their mindset sometimes. Is it that difficult to comprehend a simple argument/statement?Confused

I'm a new father. My baby is only 3 wks old. We are breastfeeding. We also pump and carry around with us a stash of formula and pumped breastmilk when we go out. It's what EVERY parent prepares when they go out.....minus the activist who wants to set an example and send out a message. Also, despite it being the summer, we ALWAYS have extra receiving blankets, clothes, and towels with us when we go out with the baby. I don't know how any other parent wouldn't!?!?!?
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Kristin
08-31-2007 at 11:07 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:07 AM.
Quote from IVIax :
Wow.... that poll is really biased.
Iagree Seriously. WTF OP? Despite your wording, my vote is still for "Yes, With a blanket in 90 degree weather where the baby pulls the blanket off anyway" - and please link me to an Applebees that keeps their restaurant at 90 degrees to substantiate this option. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Quote from RugratsGalore :
Since when did breastfeeding become disrespectful?
I think you need to re-read what I wrote. I never said breastfeeding was disrespectful. Please show me where I did.

Quote from RugratsGalore :
Where in that article did it say she was exposing herself to a roomful of strangers? She was in a corner booth, minding her own business and feeding her baby. She wasn't running around Applebee's with her breasts hanging out and sticking them in the other customers faces.
She says she was in a corner booth, being discrete about it - but she also admits to not having a blanket. Would Applebees have come over and asked her to cover herself if she were already covered (with her shirt, like pictured in the news article)? I think not - and if they had, her answer would have been "I'm covered" but it wasn't. Why do you suppose that is?

Quote from RugratsGalore :
The fact that some people can't help but stare is THEIR issue. My mother taught me when I was younger that it isn't polite to stare at others, as a matter of fact, it's rude. So who is the rude and disrespectful one in the restaurant? The ones staring or the one quietly feeding her hungry baby in the corner?
The fact that people can't help but stare is their problem, I agree - but the fact that she obviously did not conduct herself in a publically respectable manner is on her. You can't dispute that. We are all responsible for ourselves and our actions, and it's on her to exercise proper public etiquette. It surprises me that you're so quick to side with the one version of the story we've heard - her version. I still say she went in looking for a confrontation.

Quote from z2g :
This issue keeps getting brought up again and I think the pro-breastfeeding here MUST understand. We are NOT stating that breastfeeding is bad! We are just saying that if you're in a public place, where ppl may be offended and have complained to the business owner, please show some courtesy and cover up. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT FEED YOUR BABY!

Ppl PLEASE get that fact straight. I honestly think ppl are just getting on this thread and NOT reading carefully what is written by other ppl. You can't state an argument/reply if you don't even know what the other person you are responding to is saying!

Once again, this is NOT a pro-breastfeeding/anti-breastfeeding discussion! It is an issue of showing courtesy and modesty for other ppl when asked to do so. That is the bottom line.....NOT breastfeeding or feeding your child....GEEZ!

By the way, the above poll is SUPER lame. How about some other simple options that EVERY parent deals with everyday.....like when they know they are going out, they will pump beforehand, store it in a coldpack, and can feed their baby with a bottle? How much does it cost to pump you may ask? Hand pumps can be purchased for $20. Or you can rent it from the hospital for about $10 per week. Another simple solution is to cover up. Since it's in a restaurant, I am CERTAIN it will be very comfortable inside the restaurant. I highly DOUBT it will be 90 degrees in the restaurant as the above poll indicates!

Ppl, this is all about compromise. If you can't do that, then you will FAIL in all aspects in life!
Iagree 100%.
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Dizzy Devil
08-31-2007 at 11:10 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:10 AM.
Quote from Dizzy Devil :
Wow, I know I'm late in responding to the poll, but could the poll options be a little more one-sided? LMAO
Quote from TheyCallMeGeorg :
Wow...congratulations on your completely objective poll. You're not going to get any skewed results that will reinforce your own viewpoint at all!
Quote from Autumn :
Hmmm...I wonder which side the poll maker is on? laugh out loud Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
This is the best farking poll ever!! woot

All those options...one point of view! laugh out loud
Quote from IVIax :
Wow.... that poll is really biased.
Quote from rally.sport :
That poll is the most offensive thing about this thread.
Rofl2 Yay for unbiased polls!

I can't even decide which of the unbiased options to vote for.
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08-31-2007 at 11:11 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:11 AM.
Quote from appleyum :
hard when it's cold and soft when it's warm. NEXT!!



OREO or wisecracker. NEXT!!
Does it melt well? Could I use it for nachos?
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08-31-2007 at 11:14 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:14 AM.
Quote from Dizzy Devil :
Rofl2 Yay for unbiased polls!

I can't even decide which of the unbiased options to vote for.
I'm kinda disapointed that there isn't an option for:

Give your baby some Nyquil before you go the restaurant so your sweet little angel will just sleep through the meal.
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z2g
08-31-2007 at 11:15 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:15 AM.
Oh, by the way, most hospitals will GIVE you for FREE a handpump and other supplies (diapers, wipes, nipples, etc.) when you get released from the hospital. So, it's not even an issue of not having a hand breastpump!

My wife first started with the free handpump that was given to us. Once we were sure that she could produce breastmik, we purchased an electric breastpump.
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veritablequandary
08-31-2007 at 11:15 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:15 AM.
Mad Autumn picked the same option as me. Copycat!
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08-31-2007 at 11:16 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:16 AM.
Quote from veritableqndry :
Does it melt well? Could I use it for nachos?
Those are nacho boobies!
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Dizzy Devil
08-31-2007 at 11:17 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:17 AM.
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
I'm kinda disapointed that there isn't an option for:

Give your baby some Nyquil before you go the restaurant so your sweet little angel will just sleep through the meal.
Better yet, leave the kids in the car so those without kids don't have to hear any non-adult conversation. laugh out loud
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08-31-2007 at 11:17 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:17 AM.
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Those are nacho boobies!
Is it better than government cheese?
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08-31-2007 at 11:24 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:24 AM.
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
I'm kinda disapointed that there isn't an option for:

Give your baby some Nyquil before you go the restaurant so your sweet little angel will just sleep through the meal.
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08-31-2007 at 11:25 AM.
08-31-2007 at 11:25 AM.
Quote from ~Kimber~ :
I'm kinda disapointed that there isn't an option for:

Give your baby some Nyquil before you go the restaurant so your sweet little angel will just sleep through the meal.
And if you're out of Nyquil...just buy them a shot of brandy...that'll knock 'em out woot

Quote from veritableqndry :
Mad Autumn picked the same option as me. Copycat!
Who's to say you didn't copy me? Mad
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