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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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GeorgieGirl
08-31-2007 at 01:35 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:35 PM.
Quote from GeorgieGirl :
That's a cop out..and an excuse!
I breast fed 3 children in public and my 29yo daughter has feed her twins many times in public and it really is NOT difficult if you think ahead a bit and wear the correct clothing that allows discreat feeding. (and I don't mean Old lady clothing) just a fashonable button down shirt where you can un-do a button to two or a lose top (baby doll tops are the fashon now)...where you can hold you baby underneath. Even a small soft oversized bib or a cloth napkin would do for a discreat cover.
BTW...we both have breast fed in Applebees!
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Just Peachy
08-31-2007 at 01:36 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:36 PM.
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Another analogy.....it's my right to procreate and have sex; But, I can't just have sex anywhere I please in public! It's my right to eat; But, I can't eat in the middle of an operating table when surgery is going on! It's my right to drink alcohol; But, I can't do it on the streets with an open bottle (except in Vegas!). It's my right to exercise freedom of speech; But, I can't enter a restaurant and start yelling hate propaganda!
Analogy or not, you seem to have checked into these particular laws to make sure you don't overstep yourself. I find that rather... odd. laugh out loud
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08-31-2007 at 01:38 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:38 PM.
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Scratchchin
Boobees are yummy...
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z2g
08-31-2007 at 01:38 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:38 PM.
Quote from Peachyum :
Analogy or not, you seem to have checked into these particular laws to make sure you don't overstep yourself. I find that rather... odd. laugh out loud
LOL...I actually didn't look them up. But, as common sense dictates, I'm sure there are laws that prohibit those acts.
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08-31-2007 at 01:50 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:50 PM.
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Does it melt well? Could I use it for nachos?
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Is it better than government cheese?
Yes and Yes nod

NEXT!!

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How do I shred the cheese?
cheese grater.

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08-31-2007 at 01:52 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:52 PM.
Quote from appleyum :
Yes and Yes nod

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cheese grater.

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Does it taste more like Chedder or Swiss cheese?
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appleyum
08-31-2007 at 01:54 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:54 PM.
Quote from Peachyum :
What happened to this thread?

EEK!

*VQ is mentioning food again and I'll be damned if I'm having nacho breastmilk cheese, jalapenos or crispy tortillas. Mad

*Runs away!
Guess what we are having for dinner? woot Woot

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Does it taste more like Chedder or Swiss cheese?
Is the mother swiss? If not it's cheddar.
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Guess what we are having for dinner? woot Woot
Annoyed Chicken. Annoyed
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08-31-2007 at 01:55 PM.
08-31-2007 at 01:55 PM.
OK - more pages are being added faster than I can read them.....so my thoughts thus far....a good pump that actually works fast and without hurting you costs more than $100 and to some that is just not possible....esp if you are always with the child it is an unnessesary expense.

Sit in the bathroom? REALLY? Let's ignore the nastiness and all that vomit and just go straight to the fact that MOST restaurant bathrooms don't have lids on the toilets...just split seats...so what are you propsing that she stand the whole time and see/listen/smell the "scenery" while her food gets cold? Honestly?

I nursed....I had a good pump with my son because I worked....and with my daughter because she was in the hospital for a loooong time.....but I DID nurse in public when needed and I never ever showed my breast! For latch on I used a blanket or spit rag - but then my shirt was perfectly sufficient and I never had anyone say anything or even my OWN 3 year old had NO CLUE what I was doing! (and I don't think a pic exists - or yes I would post it to prove the point)

Just my thoughts thus far.

Oh - and you CAN'T schedule an outing around a newborn....a 7 month old yes - a new born now. And a new mom has enough pain, hormone issues, physical appearance issues, good mom issues....(you get the point) to ALSO tell her to STAY HOME if she can't go out without feeding!! Not only is that highly insensitve and rude....but what about single mom's and military mom's (also known as on/off single mom AND dad) who HAVE to leave to get groceries, take other kids to school etc etc.

Ok - and now I am scared. We had a rotisseri (sp?) chicken last night and plan to use the left overs for dinner tonight....on....you guessed it....Nachos!
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Doh

I just figured out why Appleyum's so interested in this thread.

Appleyum... Applebees... milk comes from boobees...
You caught me Blush4 I love milk nod
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Guess what we are having for dinner? woot Woot
Is the mother swiss? If not it's cheddar.
What if the mother is Canadian?
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What if the mother is Canadian?
Moose Cheese...Next!!
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08-31-2007 at 02:12 PM.
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What if the mother is Canadian?
Frommage?
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