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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
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Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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09-01-2007 at 04:33 PM.
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That makes me sad for your wife. Really. Why should she be banished to another room in her own home?? I did the same thing with kid #1 because I wasn't sure about my skills with breastfeeding. With the second I was so over that because I was confident that I could get the kid to latch quickly and without exposing much. In my house I will be discreet, but I will not be made to feel like a second class citizen and have to leave the room to feed the kid. You can stay in the kitchen or look the other way if it bugs you. My friends and family are considerate and will look the other way during latch-on so it wasn't a big deal.

Also, you'd have to be staring at the woman to see anything anyway. Keep your eyes on your own business and you won't have a problem.
Oh, believe me....my wife doesn't need your sympathy. She doesn't want to show off her boobies for everyone to see. It's her choice (not others) that she goes to another room. I think it's a difference in ideals when you talk about being considerate. You feel that your friends/guests need to be considerate by looking the other way. However, we feel that to be considerate, WE will go to another room. We don't force it upon others to have to be "considerate".

By the way, have you EVER been in a restaurant where someone was wearing a red top like the one you posted? Let's get real here! And besides, I've already stated that I do NOT have any problems with breastfeeding in public. However, I can understand a business owner's or restaurant owner's point of view if he/she has other patrons complaining.
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Oh, believe me....my wife doesn't need your sympathy. She doesn't want to show off her boobies for everyone to see. It's her choice (not others) that she goes to another room. I think it's a difference in ideals when you talk about being considerate. You feel that your friends/guests need to be considerate by looking the other way. However, we feel that to be considerate, WE will go to another room. We don't force it upon others to have to be "considerate".
That's all fine and good, but its someones choice to be "considerate" or not, and applebees had no right to tell her to cover up.
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09-01-2007 at 04:36 PM.
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This is just going around and around people.
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That's all fine and good, but its someones choice to be "considerate" or not, and applebees had no right to tell her to cover up.
Well, that's for the lawmakers and courts to decide. By the way, Applebee's is a business. They have EVERY RIGHT to require what they want with their guests as long as it doesn't violate anyone's civil rights or current laws. So, they have the right to ask her to cover up. They do NOT have to right to prohibit her from breastfeeding though. See the difference? Actually, why did I even ask? Obviously, you pro-breastfeeding ppl don't see the difference!LMAO
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09-01-2007 at 04:42 PM.
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Well, that's for the lawmakers and courts to decide. By the way, Applebee's is a business. They have EVERY RIGHT to require what they want with their guests as long as it doesn't violate anyone's civil rights or current laws. So, they have the right to ask her to cover up. They do NOT have to right to prohibit her from breastfeeding though. See the difference? Actually, why did I even ask? Obviously, you pro-breastfeeding ppl don't see the difference!LMAO
The lawmakers have already decided.

Quote :
SB 106, Acts. No. 180 (2006).
SECTION 1. A NEW SECTION OF KRS CHAPTER 211 IS CREATED TO READ AS FOLLOWS:
(1) Not withstanding any other provision of the law, a mother may breastfeed her baby or express breastmilk in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be. Breastfeeding a child or expressing breastmilk as part of breastfeeding shall not be considered an act of public indecency and shall not be considered indecent exposure, sexual conduct, lewd touching, or obscenity.
(2) A municipality may not enact an ordinance that prohibits or restricts a mother breastfeeding a child or expressing breastmilk in a public or private location where the mother and child are otherwise authorized to be. In a municipal ordinance, indecent exposure, sexual conduct, lewd touching, obscenity, and similar terms do not include the act of a mother breastfeeding a child in a public or private location where the mother and child are otherwise authorized to be.
(3) No person shall interfere with a mother breastfeeding her child in any location, public or private, where the mother is otherwise authorized to be.
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This is just going around and around people.
I know. But, I find it SO amusing. I am an immigrant to this country and do not have a mastery of the English language as some who were born here. However, I can say that even I can comprehend a rational argument...even if it goes against my ideals or opinions. Yet, pro-breastfeeding ppl here still cannot grasp the concept that we have been trying to convey.LMAO

Quote from AggieMomx2 View quoted comment :
The lawmakers have already decided.
So, I guess asking someone if they can cover up because other patrons are complaining is considered "interfering". I thought it was just asking to be "considerate"?!?!?
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I know. But, I find it SO amusing. I am an immigrant to this country and do not have a mastery of the English language as some who were born here. However, I can say that even I can comprehend a rational argument...even if it goes against my ideals or opinions. Yet, pro-breastfeeding ppl here still cannot grasp the concept that we have been trying to convey.LMAO
Oh I get it alright. But I will not smother my child in Texas with a blanket to satisfy your sense of decency. I will not display my boobs for all the world to see, either.

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So, I guess asking someone if they can cover up because other patrons are complaining is considered "interfering".
Pretty much.
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Oh I get it alright. But I will not smother my child in Texas with a blanket to satisfy your sense of decency. I will not display my boobs for all the world to see, either.



Pretty much.
Odd? My wife and I are new parents. When she first started breastfeeding the newborn, we had him bundled up to keep him warm (and my wife warm too) while he was feeding with a LIGHT receiving blanket. I guess we were smothering our child! Gasp....we could have been arrested!EEK!
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Odd? My wife and I are new parents. When she first started breastfeeding the newborn, we had him bundled up to keep him warm (and my wife warm too) while he was feeding with a LIGHT receiving blanket. I guess we were smothering our child! Gasp....we could have been arrested!EEK!
Whatever... laugh out loud We're at an impasse here. Done correctly, you will not see anything you shouldn't from a breastfeeding mother.

It drew far more attention to me when I covered my kids with a blanket when I fed them than when I didn't because they flailed to get it the heck off of them.
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I guess we were smothering our child! Gasp....we could have been arrested!EEK!
Ooo now we are moving on to child cruelty charges, this is getting good Popcorn
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Ooo now we are moving on to child cruelty charges, this is getting good Popcorn
I say we sue everybody in the world Whee
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I say we sue everybody in the world Whee
But first we'll show them our boobies! Whee
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I say we sue everybody in the world Whee
No only those with boobs...

So all the women and about 47% of men..
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Whatever... laugh out loud We're at an impasse here. Done correctly, you will not see anything you shouldn't from a breastfeeding mother.

It drew far more attention to me when I covered my kids with a blanket when I fed them than when I didn't because they flailed to get it the heck off of them.
I'm just messing around with you.Smilie It's been a slow afternoon at work!Smilie

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But first we'll show them our boobies! Whee
NOW...we're getting somewhere!Smilie
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I'm just messing around with you.Smilie It's been a slow afternoon at work!Smilie
I know... It's getting silly. hug

I've been there - been hassled by a stupid sales clerk and had to educate him in the law. If one kid here learns that you can't tell a woman to go to the bathroom to feed her child, I've done my part.
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