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Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

559 41 August 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Original article from Lexington Herald Leader [kentucky.com]
Mom pushes Applebee's on breast-feeding

WANTS CHANGE IN POLICY AFTER BEING TOLD TO COVER HERSELF

By Linda B. Blackford
[email protected]

Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff
David Stephenson | Staff
Brooke Ryan nursed her 10-month-old son, Michael, at her home. She says her goal is to teach, not to be provocative. Photo by David Stephenson | Staff

In June, Brooke Ryan walked into a Nicholasville Road Applebee's restaurant to celebrate an anniversary lunch with her children.

She walked out humiliated, in tears and without the lunch.

But the incident over breast-feeding her 7-month-old son at Applebee's has spurred the soft-spoken 34-year-old to start a public awareness campaign on the rights of breast-feeding women in Kentucky.

"On a small scale, I want Applebee's to change its policy," Ryan said. "On a large scale ... I want breast-feeding to be accepted."

The dispute with Applebee's began June 14. Ryan chose a booth in the back of the restaurant away from other customers. When her baby, Michael, got hungry, she began to nurse him discreetly, she said.

But a waitress came over and said that if she wanted to breast-feed, she had to cover the baby with a blanket. Ryan said it was so hot that she didn't have a blanket. The waitress then repeated her request. Ryan said she then asked to see the manager and handed him a copy of the 2006 Kentucky law that prohibits interference with a woman breast-feeding her baby in public.

The manager said he knew about the law but a customer had complained about indecent exposure, so she had to cover the baby with a blanket.

Ryan left as her food came, to nurse her baby in the car.

Her lawyer wrote a letter to Thomas & King, the company that operates Applebee's in Central Kentucky. They got no response. After a second letter, a Thomas & King lawyer said the restaurant chain would consider keeping blankets in the restaurant so that breast-feeding women could cover themselves.

"That's like telling Rosa Parks she still had to sit in the back of the bus, but we'll give her a blanket to make her more comfortable," Ryan said.

When contacted yesterday, Mike Scanlon, president of Thomas & King, said he didn't know about the incident. However, he called the Herald-Leader back to say that Applebee's had no policy against breast-feeding.

"It is perfectly legal to breast-feed in public and we support that," Scanlon said. "I'm not sure the manager said cover the baby's head, I think he said cover yourself modestly. This was by no means intended as interference, but a request to do it modestly, which I believe is an appropriate response."

Ryan says that as an experienced breast-feeder, she is extremely modest, and, in that instance, made sure that she was facing into the corner.

"Some women think it's fine to cover up with a blanket, but a woman shouldn't be forced to," said her husband, Michael Ryan.

Sen. Tom Buford, R-Nicholasville, who sponsored the breast-feeding protection bill, agrees.

"She was not treated right under the new law," he said. "There should have been no comment made to her at all; the restaurant overstepped its boundaries. There's no way they can explain their way out of this."

Thirty-nine states, including Kentucky, allow women to breast-feed in any public or private location.

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends exclusive breast-feeding for about the first six months and support for breast-feeding for the first year and beyond as long as mutually desired by mother and child. But according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 11 percent of mothers meet the six-month mark. Thirty percent breast-feed exclusively for the first three months. Kentucky's rates are 7.5 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to a 2007 report.

Scanlon suggested that Ryan had an "agenda."

"I note with interest that she had a copy of the statute with her," he said. "I'm glad to let this become a matter that we can all learn from."

But if all Ryan wanted going into Applebee's was an anniversary lunch, she may indeed have an agenda now.

August is World Breast-feeding Awareness Month, and Ryan has organized two related public events:

• A "Nurse-In" at the children's play area at Fayette Mall from 1-3 p.m. Saturday. Ryan says the mall is not a target, but has a place for kids to play.

• From noon to 2 p.m. Sept. 8, she is holding a "Nurse Out" with posters and breast-feeding in front of the Applebee's on Nicholasville Road.

She's also asking for a public apology from Applebee's and training for its employees about the rights of breast-feeding mothers. Some day, she says, she would like to see the international breast-feeding symbol of a mother and child in every restaurant that supports the practice.

"I'm not trying to be provocative," she said. "I want to teach."

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Reach Linda Blackford at (859) 231-1359 or [email protected].



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09-02-2007 at 09:02 AM.
09-02-2007 at 09:02 AM.
Quote from KimbersTimber View quoted comment :
Since BF mothers have no consideration for others and a general "fark you I will do as I please" attitude, are you really surprised there isn't more acceptance of your choice? As has been re-iterated on numerous occasions, even something gauzy that obscures the view would be adequate. No one expects you to put a heavy winter blanket over your infant.
I understand... we certainly wouldn't want someone scarred for life from witnessing the back of a little bald head stuck to a breast. You people really need to get a life... Cool
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09-02-2007 at 09:08 AM.
09-02-2007 at 09:08 AM.
What do you mean, "you people"?

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09-02-2007 at 09:11 AM.
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Quote from thewrongstuff View quoted comment :
I understand... we certainly wouldn't want someone scarred for life from witnessing the back of a little bald head stuck to a breast. You people really need to get a life... Cool
We would love to. Unfortunately we frequently get stopped in this endeavor. Usually with the effect of a trainwreck slowing down rubberneckers. It is these sudden distractions that slow down our existance. Remember, you are in the minority of women in the US, when you make this dietary choice for your infant. They also force us to explain things to our children, sometimes sooner than we would wish. You don't want anyone to tell you what to do with your kid, so please, don't have the audacity to tell me to "lighten up" and that I should "not make a big deal about it". I would like you, and other like minded with you, to not interfere with the raising of my child. Your practice is offensive, in attitude, much in the same way, and for much the same reasons as smoking in restaurants.

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What do you mean, "you people"?

laugh out loud
laugh out loud Where's Al Sharpton, when you need him?
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09-02-2007 at 09:13 AM.
09-02-2007 at 09:13 AM.
Dead Horse Poor horse.
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09-02-2007 at 09:19 AM.
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We would love to. Unfortunately we frequently get stopped in this endeavor. Usually with the effect of a trainwreck slowing down rubberneckers. It is these sudden distractions that slow down our existance. Remember, you are in the minority of women in the US, when you make this dietary choice for your infant. They also force us to explain things to our children, sometimes sooner than we would wish. You don't want anyone to tell you what to do with your kid, so please, don't have the audacity to tell me to "lighten up" and that I should "not make a big deal about it". I would like you, and other like minded with you, to not interfere with the raising of my child. Your practice is offensive, in attitude, much in the same way, and for much the same reasons as smoking in restaurants.
Actually, i'm not in the minority of women, since my having a penis seems to disqualify me from that status. I don't really care what you have to explain to your child. I'm not changing MY behavior so you don't have to explain something that is perfectly normal to them. Maybe you shouldn't take them outside. There are lots of big nasty concepts out there in the world that they might have to deal with and that you might have to be bothered with explaining to them. And your last statement is so ignorant, I'm not going to dignify it by even addressing it. Nice chatting...
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09-02-2007 at 09:21 AM.
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Dead Horse Poor horse.
No kidding.
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09-02-2007 at 09:24 AM.
09-02-2007 at 09:24 AM.
What are you people complaining even doing here if this thread is tired and boring for you? There ARE other threads you know...
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09-02-2007 at 09:28 AM.
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Maybe you shouldn't take them outside. There are lots of big nasty concepts out there in the world that they might have to deal with and that you might have to be bothered with explaining to them. And your last statement is so ignorant, I'm not going to dignify it by even addressing it. Nice chatting...
Good for you. Then it is, in fact your wife that is the minority. There are lot's of big nasty concepts out there. You lack of respect towards others children may result in someone expanding your childrens vocabulary when they pay your table a visit in a restaurant. Your inability to grasp the truth within my analogy is proof of your inability to process abstract concepts. The concept of inconsideration polluting the environment of others is a pretty basic concept. I didn't think it was that hard. Nice chatting, indeed.
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What are you people complaining even doing here if this thread is tired and boring for you? There ARE other threads you know...
We've been over this and over this - if you'd read the entire thread you'd know that with the exception of a few people mouthing off simply to get a rise out of others, we've come to an understanding.

Breastfeed all you want, but please be discreet. And no flapping your man bits in public. shake head
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Your inability to grasp the truth within my analogy is proof of your inability to process abstract concepts. The concept of inconsideration polluting the environment of others is a pretty basic concept..
How about the abstract concept of "irony"?
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09-02-2007 at 09:34 AM.
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Apparently people will not be changing their minds on this subject.

Talk about extremists! And on both sides of the fence.


Before I put this thread on ignore I will put in my 2 cents. As a woman and a mother...I also think it's not asking too much to lightly cover up when you pop your breast out the feed your baby. Yes, it's a natural thing...yes, it's to nourish your child. But the fact still remains that at every other instance, having your breast exposed is "indecent exposure". We've been conditioned as a society to regard it as such. I know that I don't care to see women's boobs when I go out to eat dinner. Thanks and keep the change.
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We've been over this and over this - if you'd read the entire thread you'd know that with the exception of a few people mouthing off simply to get a rise out of others, we've come to an understanding.

Breastfeed all you want, but please be discreet. And no flapping your man bits in public. shake head
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How about the abstract concept of "irony"?
And what do you find so ironic? No one is telling you to not breast feed (actually, no one is telling your wife not to breastfeed). That is not the point. I don't want to see my wife's boob while I am eating. I assure you, I enjoy looking at my wife's bust at all other times. I certainly don't want to see yours. If only all restaurants had booths with high enough walls around them, I would not give a hoot if your wife went topless for the meal. It would not affect me then. Alas, since there is no significant privacy in dining establisments, we must be considerate of others and their differing sense of aesthetics. When my child is not around, I would love to enjoy a smoke after the meal. In consideration of others, that does not occur.
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09-02-2007 at 09:51 AM.
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And what do you find so ironic? No one is telling you to not breast feed (actually, no one is telling your wife not to breastfeed). That is not the point. I don't want to see my wife's boob while I am eating. I assure you, I enjoy looking at my wife's bust at all other times. I certainly don't want to see yours. If only all restaurants had booths with high enough walls around them, I would not give a hoot if your wife went topless for the meal. It would not affect me then. Alas, since there is no significant privacy in dining establisments, we must be considerate of others and their differing sense of aesthetics. When my child is not around, I would love to enjoy a smoke after the meal. In consideration of others, that does not occur.
I find it ironic, that you talk so much of consideration of others, but it seems to only flow one way in your world.

I'm outta here. Have a nice life. Cya at Applebees!
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10-26-2007 at 09:53 AM.
10-26-2007 at 09:53 AM.
Hey, she wants to be an exibition....no problem....just don't complain if people stare....

you can't have it both ways...

Or feed the little brat before you go out...simple...

Basically...she's a libber who wants attention and a free dinner,.....nothin new..
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