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Post #146090395 added 03-18-2021 10:08 AM by ExtremeOak in Deal Talk
Let me start by saying Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicles are not for everybody. Being that H2 fueling stations are limited, it's really only feasible in the LA / SF area. YMMV but see below for the...
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Post #146224436 added 03-18-2021 10:09 AM by wikipost in Deal Talk
Doug DeMuro review of the Toyota Mirai
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Post #146090482 added 03-18-2021 10:13 AM by wpc in Deal Talk
the catch is hydrogen is not catching on and you can't fill up anywhere. I was waiting and waiting for one of the "planned" hydrogen stations to open near me and eventually gave up this year and...
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Post #146090743 added 03-18-2021 10:27 AM by nhhiep in Deal Talk
the resale value after 50k miles is like $5k at best. I wonder how much does the insurance pay you if you total it after you bought it? near $50k?
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Post #146091244 added 03-18-2021 10:49 AM by slicknod in Deal Talk
I own one. Definitely the wrong forum to post this in even though it is truly a slick deal. The media/Tesla have unfortunately shaped the consensus that fuel cells are have no future and thus,...
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Post #146100460 added 03-18-2021 4:00 PM by wpc in Deal Talk
yeah deep in LA yes they are around here and there. Nothing like the electric charging stations nor gas stations. I think many places are scrapping their plans for rolling out hydrogen. It might...
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Post #146103376 added 03-18-2021 6:22 PM by Arcanlaw in Deal Talk
Right, electric vehicles have been a serious consideration since 1890. Gosh I remember Grandpa Jones coming home and plugging his first electric car in. If you're going to make ridiculous comments...
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Post #146103766 added 03-18-2021 6:40 PM by dragonballz1 in Deal Talk
Its already bad enough that there isn't many filling stations and to make matters worse the fuel cell dispenser is jammed or busted half the time. My co-worker spends half his day at work running...
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Post #146105461 added 03-18-2021 7:45 PM by MKB3921 in Deal Talk
Wait until there's an issue with the H2 supply like what happened a year ago and your nightmare begins. You will be making payment on a car that you cannot use and many of us clarity fuel cell and...
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Post #146108191 added 03-18-2021 10:17 PM by FubarActual in Deal Talk
This is a slick deal if you live in So Cal, but oh the humanity!
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Post #146108905 added 03-18-2021 11:13 PM by nigerianscammerhello in Deal Talk
Not true. There's no income cap at all. "The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."...
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Post #146108986 added 03-18-2021 11:19 PM by couches200000 in Deal Talk
Slickdeal will be when one of you suckers sell me one of these to me for dirt so I can rebuild it to be something remotely practical.
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Post #146109067 added 03-18-2021 11:27 PM by msgca in Deal Talk
I may consider referral what is the benefit of it? Thanks, also which Toyota was that Steven creeks where I live close by
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Post #146112995 added 03-19-2021 7:44 AM by satnav4 in Deal Talk
Just stopped in to say 50,000 miles might be about 4 years of driving. I know I don't spend $15,000 for gas in 4 years. Sounds pretty pricey to operate one of these things.
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Post #146113847 added 03-19-2021 8:36 AM by sillylouie in Deal Talk
You are mistaken in terms of it lowering your taxable income... the way it works is if you owe over 8k in taxes you would get the fulll 8k or 7500 tax credit from the feds. If you owed 5K in taxes...
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Post #146113868 added 03-19-2021 8:36 AM by instantfob in Deal Talk
Keep an eye on the H2 stations around you before you pull the trigger. They go offline often due to supply issues.
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Post #146113994 added 03-19-2021 8:40 AM by ExtremeOak in Deal Talk
Yes, this is a real concern from what I hear.
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Post #146117801 added 03-19-2021 11:34 AM by HairlessApe in Deal Talk
You've got this all planned out my dude go for it!
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Post #146117894 added 03-19-2021 11:37 AM by Strider007 in Deal Talk
Im leasing 2018 Mirai and not renewing it further. Main cause - availability of H2 stations and dependency on them. I drove 20 miles to fillup the H2 only to know that it's already been depleted....
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Post #146118083 added 03-19-2021 11:44 AM by thanatossassin in Deal Talk
I think you missed your shot with CNG, but that was a car of diminishing returns. Power was weak at the get go, and even then it would lose another 10% of peak power over 3-4 years. I know my...
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Post #146117042 added 03-19-2021 10:58 AM by time4sleep in Deal Talk
Nice WriteUp, Enjoy Your Car. looks Sweet inside and out. :) Just like Electric, Hydrogen will be successful despite big oil campaigning against.
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Post #146117066 added 03-19-2021 10:59 AM by BraveDime9640 in Deal Talk
My thought about all this is how can I run and uber or lyft service with this? Burn through that free gas card. Collect the gas card money back as fast as possible. Be offering costumers a sweet...
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Post #146120870 added 03-19-2021 1:43 PM by tai_son in Deal Talk
Get it now and regret it later.
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Post #146119754 added 03-19-2021 12:56 PM by cao_nguyen2002 in Deal Talk
I got one with $33k OTD from Hamer Toyota Mission Hills last Monday.
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Post #146123771 added 03-19-2021 3:47 PM by Duke-GlobeTrotter in Deal Talk
I bought one this week. There's a chance you can get get it less than what I negotiated for $49K from the $52.5K MRSP. Of course this is before all the crazy incentives, credits, and rebates. XLE...
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Post #146124041 added 03-19-2021 4:01 PM by BlackMountain123 in Deal Talk
So, the income cap doesn't apply in California? " The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles." What about the fed side?
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Post #146124074 added 03-19-2021 4:02 PM by combi1 in Deal Talk
San Diego
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Post #146124293 added 03-19-2021 4:12 PM by oscar13sd in Deal Talk
Elon Musk has stated that fuel cells have the potential to succeed EVs. If you want to blame Tesla for the slow fuel cell adoption, blame them for being great EVs, not some propaganda conspiracy.
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Post #146126294 added 03-19-2021 5:40 PM by bonuscow in Deal Talk
It's nothing really to do with the media. Media has been far more negative towards Tesla, but Tesla seems to be doing fine. It's more of the fact that hydrogen just isn't a great idea. The footprint...
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Post #146126891 added 03-19-2021 6:09 PM by bears2006 in Deal Talk
More like feel the cold 🥶
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Post #146127038 added 03-19-2021 6:14 PM by ExtremeOak in Deal Talk
Lol.. it’s 0% financing. Time value of money my friend. GME to the moon!!
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Post #146127122 added 03-19-2021 6:18 PM by th3g3ntl3man in Deal Talk
Hydrogen can be made using renewable energy so it doesn't benefit "BIG OIL".
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Post #146127332 added 03-19-2021 6:28 PM by MarlboroNjMan in Deal Talk
Based on NorCal zip code is says offer no longer available. Disregard. It was just an issue with dealer website.
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Post #146128739 added 03-19-2021 7:47 PM by jimx200 in Deal Talk
Good for you. Where do you live?
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East Bay
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Post #146129081 added 03-19-2021 8:10 PM by jboze84 in Deal Talk
Tustin dealer was all sold out of XLE. Selling 50-60 a weekend now thanks to threads like this. So much for getting one for 5k under MSRP+ the 20k incentive. You guys killed the real deals on these...
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Post #146129168 added 03-19-2021 8:14 PM by krnprogamer in Deal Talk
This is like not even half way true lol
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Post #146129177 added 03-19-2021 8:14 PM by StrongM4665 in Deal Talk
If anyone is willing to share their purchase offer on a xle please pm thanks
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Post #146131586 added 03-19-2021 11:30 PM by 80is in Deal Talk
I hate having to charge my phone, charge my watch, charge my laptop, charge my bluetooth speakers, charge my battery packs . . . last thing I want to do is to add my car to that . . . . I will...
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Post #146131829 added 03-20-2021 12:06 AM by carbonfiber in Deal Talk
$15000 hydrogen credit is around $5000 in gas, not a good deal if you ask me, very limited stations
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