Sony UBP-X700M Streaming 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player w/ HDMI Cable Expired

Does the LG UBKM9 support both HDR10+ and DV?

That is your opinion on the Panasonic UB420
I dont recall anyone else saying it was the best player for the money as it usually gets lumped in with the sub $100 ( on sale ) players
The fact that it lacks DV is another issues that people have when its compared

I own the 820 and I certainly dont think it was worth the money over the $99 LG that I have.
So we are clearly on different sides of the opinion there

What you quoted needs to be in the context of all I posted. I said a typical LED here on slick deals is typically not capable of more than 600 nits

I think you would be hard pressed to see any difference between DV and HDR10 in that scenario

With a better display that could do 1400, 1800 2000+ nits and of course the right mastered disc I think its another story
Hence my reason for always saying buying a better display is always money better spent than a higher end 4K player
I am using this in the context of the typical LED Tv posts here on slick deals and what $200 ish makes in regard to a better set

I really dont have an opinion on the Oppo( or Pioneer elite) since the last time I saw the Oppo unit it was connected to a Sony A90J, in a showroom
It was excellent ..but I dont know what was the TV and what was the Oppo

I have never connected( or seen) an Oppo 205 in my environment or any panels I own
I am going to say that buyer is probably connecting it to a top of the line TV in most scenarios
So..I completely understand the desire to have the best of the best and the diminishing returns associated to get the last 10% ish of performance

Your next to last sentence makes a very good selling point for one of the cheap LG units that pop up on here from time to time

Yes it's completely my opinion based on personal experience with many players.
You could do the same just turn off DV on your 820 and you basically have a 420.

As a mentioned if people with a 600 nit display believe buying a new display that produces 2000 nits will improve the PQ say to The Revenant movie worth the price, that's their prerogative.

You're still tied to a player since you can't display disc content without one.
In that case the 420 will give you a better PQ with UHD/BD/DVD disc over the LG IMO.

Even you said the 820 is better quality and since The Revenant does not have DV, it's moot. $150 for the 420 for overall better quality is a no brainer IMO.

Even people in here say with Sony players they don't like to switch back and forth regarding DV and they don't see a difference anyways.

If you're referring to "cheap" displays based on 600 nits, I would point out the U8G was/is on SD for $900. That's in the 600 nit range I don't think most people would call that "cheap" but people can look at rtings for comparisons and reviews and see what they say.

And that is my opinion based on several players and several displays

Why would you want to turn off DV?

I have not seen that level of Tv here on Slick deals..hence my comment about the average TV that I see in these threads being no more than 600 nits
That was my example in what buying " up " another level for $200 ish dollars
You are actually not " tied" to the player and frankly a better Tv with a streaming source likely looks better than a disc on poorer quality TV..no matter what disc player you are using

Marginal is the word I would use for the difference in the 820 and the LG...when the difference in dollars if factored in its a no brainer
There are lot of movies that have DV these days

They also say that the Sony players have DVD audio and SACD...which I have used occasionally
If you have a DV capable television I never turned the Dolby Vision off when I used the Sony player

There was also an Element for $299 that had far more "likes" and made front page , twice, in less than a day. FAR more popular that the Hisense
I think 65" TVs in the $500 and below are by far the most popular and hit front page in a couple of hours typically
That is one of the reasons I say the $200 ish that you could spend on a better player is far better spent on a better display

Probably for the same reason Sony has you manually turn it on or off based on the disc you're watching. In this case to see how "marginal" DV is compared to HDR.

Well if you're going to use it as an example, silly to then just say well it's not SD. I don't think people only buy displays that pop up on SD, thats why you example is valid in this case.

Well we are in a disc player thread and talking about "disc content", you even keep comparing the 820 vs LG players and pointed to the disc The Revenant and it's HDR PQ.

Again even more so to my opinion if someone thinks that buying a 2000 nit display will improve the PQ of The Revenant streaming content over an 600 nit display worth the price again that's there prerogative.

The 420 is the same as the 820 in performance minus DV. Even YOU mentioned DV is "marginal" and I agreed and added even on Oled from personal experience which clearly those don't fall under cheap or not on SD.

If people believe a "$500 and below" display is an upgrade to their current display and this is based on popularity on SD and it will improve the content they are viewing hey thats their prerogative.

If that content is ON DISC they NEED a player to view them and the 420 will give you better PQ than the LG with ALL three disc formats, especially like YOU said these are "cheap" displays and the DV content is "marginal" when and IF the disc has DV.

I am going to assume that the only way Sony got DV to work with their players is to have it manually turned on

I completely agree that people buy displays that dont pop up on Slick deals
I own a few of them

I was simply following what you had replied to me with " relevant" brands when I mentioned several audio brands that could not be bought online but were available at Magnolia and other B&M mortar retailers

I have never seen a 2000 nit capable display on slick deals
IMO...that would be the Oppo 205 or Pioneer LX800 buyer who simply wants the best there is out there

But getting back to the most popular TV's on Slick deals. By a leaps and bounds overwhelming margin they are 65" TV's $500 and under
I come back to my comment about spending $200 being better spent for that overwhelming buyer

I didnt say DV was marginal with the right panel..LOL

I stated that in the context of the overwhelming majority of Tv's that you see on here DV would be marginal
Its in the same context of the most popular group of Tv's here on slick deals would be better upgraded by spending money on the panel and not a better player

A 2000 nit TV buyer is in the Oppo or Pioneer Elite category IMO...when you want the very best

By the way...i disagree with you that DV is marginal on the right OLED as well

Lol what the 🤷🏻 ♂️ ….. audio ? ….Lol ok then…Lol anyways…..

"i disagree with you that DV is marginal on the right OLED as well"

Please give us an example of a movie and "right OLED" where DV is NOT "marginal" compared to HDR in your opinion?

Have you forgotten what you said about " relevant" audio when related to slick deals?...

Ok...and to think I was making these panel comments and value vs the player using your litmus test..LOL..

Anyway
The Sony A90J most certainly displays discernible DV disc content connected to an Oppo 205

Well what's the specific movie content?

whew... a lot of demos on this topic

Aquaman....this is a very good audio subwoofer workout as well---Dirac is a beautiful thing

Ready Player One...and another great audio masterpiece here

Invisible Man--great subwoofer work out. Not as much as Aquaman but still very good

1917- Maybe my favorite for the video nuances

Hmmmm

"i disagree with you that DV is marginal on the right OLED as well"

The Sony A90J most certainly displays discernible DV disc content connected to an Oppo 205

"video nuances"!!!
If that's your definition of "NOT marginal" we definitely define it VERY differently, especially for the massive price difference !!!!

When I watch old DVDs, I'd prefer the blu-ray player to do upscaling rather TV. I tried both ways, looks Bluray player works better.
I have 77inch Sony 90j OLED, for reference.

Hmmm...yes
Yes..discernible and marginal are very different words by definition...you know that right?...
As I said DV is not marginal on the right OLED panel...or frankly LED as well

But I understand, as you have said...that you often " come to your own conclusions"..

Yes that's my point if "discernible" is your definition of "not marginal",we clearly defined it differently.

You do realize that "DV" deals with PQ right ?

3 of the 4 "examples" you gave for "discernible" "DV", you pointed out AQ!!! 🤔

The dictionary defines the two words quite differently...you know that right?

What I can say is that it was quite discernible to my eyes given the right panel

What I referred to as marginal was the same exercise with a sub 600 nit capable TV

You either dont understand what I am posting or you pull words out without the context they were in

But again my original comment about money better spent was in the context of products here on slick deals
You have used that very metric as a litmus test of comparison. You recall that right?

This television was quite popular and many of those that commented cant imagine spending 2-3X( or more) and it being worth it
https://slickdeals.net/f/15402940-element-65-4k-uhd-frameless-roku-tv-starting-november-21st-2021-299-99-at-target?src=SiteSearch
My eyes see differently in the fact that its worth it to spend more

In regards to the audio quality I was just stating another fact of the demo I was involved in
Sorry..I thought that was quite easy to understand, perhaps I was mistaken