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U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest
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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

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Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%
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Treasury Bond offers ~5.4% interest for 3, 4, 6, 12 months
  • Only need to pay Federal Tax, and no State Tax
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/au...a-results/

You will need to open an account if you don't have one already.
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/RS...tCreate.do
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Last Edited by Lyrrad August 11, 2023 at 11:55 AM
Frequently Asked Questions (asked a lot in this thread) :

Why is this is better than an ETF treasury fund, CDs, and high-interest savings accounts?

Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is state & local tax-free on the money earned. So if you're in a high-income tax state and city they're worth it.ETF fund aren't always 100% in treasuries and charge fees.

Question (asked a dozen or more times in the thread) : How does bill interest work?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is the difference between face value and purchase price. You buy a $10k bill at less than $10k, upon maturity, it is worth $10k. The difference between purchase price and maturity value is your "interest."

Tax Equivalent Yield Calculator For Savings Bonds, Treasury Bills, and Tax-Exempt Money Market Funds

https://www.mymoneyblog.com/tax-e...funds.html

How Buy and Sell Treasury Bills
https://thefinancebuff.com/treasury-bills-cd-money-market.html


When are the auctions? When can I place an order?
4, 8, 13, 17, and 26 week bills are auctioned every week.
52 week bills are auctioned every four weeks.
You can see recent results and the planned schedule at: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/au...a-results/

4 and 8 week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Thursday, and settle on Tuesday.
17 and week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Wednesday, and settle on Tuesday.
13 and 26 week bills are usually announced on Thursday, auctioned on Monday, and settle on Thursday.
52 week bills are usually announced every 4th Thursday, auctioned on Tuesday, and settle on Thursday.

At a brokerage, you can usually can place an order between the announcement and auction.
At TreasuryDirect, you can place an order up to about 8 weeks in advance.

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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
If Fidelity goes bust you still own the T-Bills and the government will pay you or whatever brokerage house the T-Bills are transferred to in your name. There is also SIPC insurance which covers you for fraud in case Fidelity didn't actually buy it for you and ran away with the money. Technically the limit you are covered for is $500,000 but all the brokerages have excess insurance which is for a very large amount. Usually over $50 million per person. You can check with each of the brokerages to see what they cover though the people who answer the phone don't often know about this as they are just reading from a script.

FYI, to the person who asked about the 100,000 for three months. If you did the 13 week auction today you would get $1338 in interest at the end of the three months. Prorated per annum as per the person who posted above stated
Technically, you would pay $98,662 for the bonds and get $100,000 on November 9th. The difference between what you pay now and what the bonds are redeemed for in November is considered the interest.

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Quote from BluegrassPicker :
The downside to T bills is no compounding of interest. Interest on maturity is auto deposited in the buyer's primary bank account, then a new T bill is automatically purchased at the discount (auction) price off of face value.
Due to inverted yield curves, best yield is at one month.

With treasury direct, the money showed up in the funding account the day before maturity. That's your free compound interest. Adjust the next day purchase to reflect the discount price. Remember that you can buy treasury in $100 increment. Worst case, you'll forfeit 45 cents of compound dividend each month.
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Back with by the US government means nothing...
FDIC insurance is different, the banks pay premium for the insurance ,
Big boys don't bother with FDIC due to 250K cap. US government has the power to create money. FDIC gives little people confidence in garbage banks. If US government wants to support certain bank, then it will cover losses beyond 250K.
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Due to inverted yield curves, best yield is at one month.

With treasury direct, the money showed up in the funding account the day before maturity. That's your free compound interest. Adjust the next day purchase to reflect the discount price. Remember that you can buy treasury in $100 increment. Worst case, you'll forfeit 45 cents of compound dividend each month.
My understanding is that the interest $ received and deposited into the funding account is the interest paid at the APY rate that the TBill was purchased to yield upon maturity. Purchase price of the TBill = the maturity amount of the bill minus the APY, making the total of the bill upon maturity the actual denomination of the bill. When a new TBill is automatically purchased, the interest earned on the "old" TBill is not added to the equation - it's still in the funding account. Thus there is no "automatic" compounding by adding the interest to a principle such as in a CD or bank account. The only compounding of interest that can occur is if a person manually takes the interest earned from the funding account and purchases another TBill with it. But that is not automatically done.

I'm not trying to argue, as I could easily be wrong, but that's my understanding from the TBills that I have been purchasing and maturing. My mind is open, I would be extremely interested in learning how I can automatically purchase TBills and enable "automatic" compounding of interest such as with a CD or bank account.
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Big boys don't bother with FDIC due to 250K cap. US government has the power to create money. FDIC gives little people confidence in garbage banks. If US government wants to support certain bank, then it will cover losses beyond 250K.
If the account is in the name of a trust with five or less unique named beneficiaries, the FDIC insures the account up to 250k for each individual to a maximum of $1,250,000 total. I'm no big boy like Bezos or Gates, but that works for me since all of my accounts are in the name of my trust.
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Big boys don't bother with FDIC due to 250K cap. US government has the power to create money. FDIC gives little people confidence in garbage banks. If US government wants to support certain bank, then it will cover losses beyond 250K.
Nope! US government does not have power to create money.!
Federal reserve manages the money , it is independent from government
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when US government gets bankrupted ( technically it is already in), is there insurance for it ?
Good question. No. Dollars are like blood cells to the body economic. Chronic government overspending is like leukemia, a blood cancer that causes the production of cells of diminishing value. Both ultimately kill the host.

Warnings against overspending go back decades but have recently become more poignant as the federal debt shoots past $34 T, now accumulating at a rate of a trillion dollars every 100 days. Two days ago, the IMF issued its own warning [linkedin.com], just the latest in a string of danger signals that are being roundly ignored.

The threat is twofold; inflation consumes the dollar's value, but that takes place within the economic framework. Continued overspending by the government threatens the framework itself. Think the economy can't collapse? Here, hold the government's beer.

Those who ignore this existential threat to the economy have their heads in the sand. The first step when there's any threat is to face it. The next is to develop a strategy to deal with it.
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Good question. No. Dollars are like blood cells to the body economic. Chronic government overspending is like leukemia, a blood cancer that causes the production of cells of diminishing value. Both ultimately kill the host.

Warnings against overspending go back decades but have recently become more poignant as the federal debt shoots past $34 T, now accumulating at a rate of a trillion dollars every 100 days. Two days ago, the IMF issued its own warning [linkedin.com], just the latest in a string of danger signals that are being roundly ignored.

The threat is twofold; inflation consumes the dollar's value, but that takes place within the economic framework. Continued overspending by the government threatens the framework itself. Think the economy can't collapse? Here, hold the government's beer.

Those who ignore this existential threat to the economy have their heads in the sand. The first step when there's any threat is to face it. The next is to develop a strategy to deal with it.

This is the best reply...
Yes, develop a strategy against the dollar failure....
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If the account is in the name of a trust with five or less unique named beneficiaries, the FDIC insures the account up to 250k for each individual to a maximum of $1,250,000 total. I'm no big boy like Bezos or Gates, but that works for me since all of my accounts are in the name of my trust.
that is a good strategy to break the 250k FDIC insurance limitation. rep!
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Buy gold people. Treasuries are still backed by worthless dollars
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Buy gold people.
"Gold people"
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Does gold appreciate at the rate of 5.3% APY or better when factoring in buying and selling costs?
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when US government gets bankrupted ( technically it is already in), is there insurance for it ?
The US government will not go bankrupt. Because of a 1997 law on coin mintage, the US Treasury could mint a platinum coin of any value and deposit it with the Federal Reserve bank which would be required to accept it. The government would then pay any debts from that account causing the Federal Reserve to issue sufficient Federal Reserve notes (dollars) to cover those payments. Besides that, the US government has much more in assets than liabilities, think government buildings, property, military bases, public lands, etc, and will continue to do so because inflation causes those assets to increase in nominal value as more debt is issued.
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The US government will not go bankrupt. Because of a 1997 law on coin mintage, the US Treasury could mint a platinum coin of any value and deposit it with the Federal Reserve bank which would be required to accept it. The government would then pay any debts from that account causing the Federal Reserve to issue sufficient Federal Reserve notes (dollars) to cover those payments. Besides that, the US government has much more in assets than liabilities, think government buildings, property, military bases, public lands, etc, and will continue to do so because inflation causes those assets to increase in nominal value as more debt is issued.
Your comment is contrary to the facts. The US government could go bankrupt at any time. The government just cannot keep printing money or coins. It would crash at some point, sooner or later.
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Does gold appreciate at the rate of 5.3% APY or better when factoring in buying and selling costs?
It's appreicated about 20% YTD, even for those peopel who bought the 1oz pieces from Costco, theyre up relative to spot price atm.
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