Lenovo Legion 5 Laptop: Ryzen 7 7735HS, 15.6" 1440p, RTX 4060, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Expired

This is a pretty good, but not incredible, deal. At $850 this is about as cheap as you can find a full wattage 4060 laptop (though mobile 4060 gpu performance stops scaling past 100w) with a good screen and ddr5 memory.

There are two primary downsides to this laptop. The first, as mentioned by the poster above me, is the 60wh battery. This means that this laptop will have poor battery life even amongst gaming laptops, which are already notorious for having terrible battery life. The second downside is the r7 7735hs cpu, which is not a current gen zen 4 cpu. Instead it uses the last gen zen 3+ architecture, being a modest upgrade in performance to the previous gen r7 6800h while supporting newer features such as ddr5 (only up to ddr5 4800) and usb4. It has the last gen rdna2 radeon 680m igpu, which is significantly inferior to the current gen rdna3 radeon 780m igpu.

Otherwise, this laptop is reasonably high quality overall. Lenovo legion laptops have a good reputation, and the chassis has quite a few nice features. It has two full size pcie4 m.2 2280 ssd slots (one currently occupied by the 512gb ssd). It has two user accessible memory slots (currently occupied by 2x 8gb ddr5 4800 dimms), but keep in mind if you want to upgrade the memory that the cpu's memory controller is only officially rated for up to ddr5 4800. The screen is quite nice for a laptop of this price point, and is definitely one of it's primary selling points. The ports available on this chassis are excellent as per usual with legion laptops.

Overall, the cpu and battery of this laptop keep it from being a truly fantastic deal at this price, but it's still a fairly compelling value overall. There have definitely been better deals, (this one for example: https://slickdeals.net/f/17333643-dell-g15-5535-15-6-fhd-165hz-ryzen-7-7840hs-rtx-4060-16gb-ddr5-512gb-ssd-849-99 ), but if you want an upper midrange gaming laptop in the short term where portability and battery life aren't primary concerns, then this is a decent deal.

Oh boy, where to even start with this mess of a post...

First off, I said this cpu is zen 3+ not zen 3, and is in most respects a refresh of the r7 6800h. All of that is objectively true, here's an article from notebookcheck discussing the 6800h vs the 7735hs: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD...889.0.html

While you are correct that for most games the mobile rtx 4060 will be the primary bottleneck, there are certain games that will perform meaningfully worse with a slower cpu. There's also the fact that as a last gen cpu on an older process node, not only is the 7735hs substantially slower (the 7840hs, the current gen analogue to the 7735hs, has a passmark score that is 19.8% higher while having the same typical tdp), it is also less power efficient. Additionally, as a refreshed previous gen architecture, certain features such as higher speed ddr5 support, avx512 support, integrated npu, etc. are much more limited or even non-existent compared to zen 4 phoenix cpus. The igpu is also meaningfully inferior as well. It's important to remember that a gaming laptop is unlikely to be used for nothing but gaming and solely while plugged into a wall (someone with that use case would typically just purchase a desktop), so cpu performance, efficiency, and feature set outside of that single specific scenario are also relevant.

Moving on to your passmark comparisons, while the overall score given by synthetic benchmarks isn't a foolproof indication of real world performance, even if we take those scores at face value your statements are misleading and in some cases flat out false. You first compare the substantially more expensive and newer 8-core zen 3+ 7735hs's passmark overall score to the 6-core zen 3 5600x, which is a total apples to oranges comparison. Even disregarding the node shrink and the fact that the 7735hs uses ddr5 instead of ddr4 memory, comparing an aggregate score which incorporates multithreaded performance between a 6-core and an 8-core processor is incredibly misleading.
You then proceed to compare the 7735hs to the r7 5700u, and incorrectly claim that the 5700u is a zen 3 cpu. That is a flat out fabrication. The 5700u is a zen 2 cpu: https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-s...700u.c2744
Trying to show how "improved" the 7735hs is by comparing it to a low power "u" variant of an even older generation zen 2 cpu while falsely claiming it's a zen 3 cpu is absurdly intellectually dishonest.

In conclusion, to quote your own words, as grammatically incorrect and incoherent as they are, "Please please please become educated and not share miss information".

He said it's Zen 3+, note the +. What he said does hold true: The 7735HS is the refresh of the Ryzen 7 6800HS.

It does have a 680m, and it is not a huge jump in performance over the 6800HS, about 50 MHz higher boost. It's still 6nm vs 4nm for the other 7k series chips such as the r7 7840 and r5 7640. Being Zen 3+, it doesn't allow for the higher speed RAM as the other 7k series does.

For all intents and purposes, the 7735HS is a Zen 3+ CPU. https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD...410.0.html

None of that makes it a bad CPU, and as you pointed out it will perform just fine and not gimp the 4060 (which no one was claiming), but the buyer should be aware that they are not buying a true 7k series CPU.