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Tesla Full Self Driving (FSD) Supervised now only $8,000
$8,000.00
$12,000.00
Tesla has lowered the price of Full Self Driving to $8,000 or $99 a month.
Those who have EAP can upgrade to FSD for $2,000.
http://tesla.com
Those who have EAP can upgrade to FSD for $2,000.
http://tesla.com
Created 04-20-2024
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No. They've done away with it. It's now AP and FSD options only. If I'm to guess the reasoning behind this is probably due to FSD becoming $6k at some point (more than likely for a limited time around an earnings that doesn't look too good). FSD is great (but so is AP) on the highways. Not $8k great (city driving leaves much to be desired). I'd wait.
it's still pretty early days, but they'll be replacing the much dirtier diesel stuff being used today.
Why?
Unlike gasoline electricity can be produced sustainably and cleanly.
If governments hadn't been allowing fossil fuel companies to externalize all their environmental costs for generations we'd already have fully done so.
Investing, according to the greater fool theory, means ignoring valuations, earnings reports, and all the other data. Ignoring the fundamentals is, of course, risky; and so people subscribing to the greater fool theory could be left holding the bag after a correction.
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There was a brief hold a few weeks ago when they found a defect due to a suppliers process change on the adhesive for the pedal cover of the accelerator- but deliveries have already resumed with a fix in place and a recall to correct the trucks already delivered.
https://www.reuters.com/technolog...024-04-29/
https://www.reuters.com/technolog...024-04-29/
You left a word out there... they'll use Baidus license for data collection.
They'll use Teslas actual FSD software for driving the car.
The issue was China has weird laws on collecting data inside the country if you aren't a Chinese entity-- thus Tesla couldn't do this independently so they're piggybacking on the license Baidu has to be able to do this.
Quite the opposite- the accident rate on FSD is drastically lower than human drivers.
FSD Beta users have 0.31 accidents per 1 million miles in primarily city driving.
Teslas with Autopilot (primarily highway driving) had only 0.18 accidents per 1 million miles.
The industry average of ALL cars i the US is 1.53 accidents per 1 million miles
So FSD crashes roughly 5 times less often and AP 8.5 times less often than just unaided humans do.
Tesla's stock prices have been tumbling. In a call with investors, CEO Elon Musk insisted on calling the cars "self driving." He added that the automaker is about to release a "fully autonomous vehicle" for consumers, as well as a "robotaxi." Despite the NHTSA demonstrating that humans could have avoided crashes in which Teslas killed people, Musk insisted Tesla cars are already safer than human drivers.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/n...fca3&ei=10
That's.... not at all how that works. "Otherwise" results in a higher overall death rate as the numbers you just said were believable show.
If 1 person dies every million miles with no ADAS
And
1 person dies every 5 million miles using ADAS
Then using ADAS has objectively saved lives overall.
NO system will produce zero deaths. But one is saving lives overall compared to not using it.
It's exactly the same for the fact you can occasionally find a one-off story where someones seatbelt kills them-- but overall seatbelts save MASSIVELY more number of lives by their use than not.
Perhaps you missed this part of the story?
"Authorities said they have not yet independently verified whether Autopilot was in use at the time of the crash"
It wouldn't be the first time a driver lied to try and avoid civil and criminal charges for something that was 100% their own fault.
heck sometimes it's not even the driver who makes up the story--- remember the story a couple years ago about the 2 guys in Texas who supposedly crashed into a tree with nobody in the drivers seat and using autopilot?
Turned out after investigation:
AP was not used at all.
The driver WAS in the drivers seat
The driver was drunk as hell
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It's not "what happened today"
Which, BTW, what happened today was the stock is up almost $20 a share from yesterdays close.
A trend is long term.
Over 5 years the stock is up much more than any other big tech stock but Nvidia. Over 936% as of this post.
Since IPO the stock is up 12,598%.
Those are trends.
"it dipped last week" is not a trend.
Very weird remark.
Tesla lays dead weight off every year or three- this is not anything new.
2018 similar layoffs-
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/12/t...eport.html
2019 similar layoffs
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/18/bu...index.html
2022 similar layoffs
https://electrek.co/2022/06/03/te...g-economy/
In every case total # of workers ended up (significantly) higher long term after such things as they hired for other things.
You're aware the gasoline industrys pollution kills WAY more kids than cobalt mining, right?
Also that a huge % of Teslas cars use LFPs that use 0 cobalt, right?
Apparently the whole supercharger team gone (500 employees all together with their boss)
and as posted on some social media sites another round of layoff over weekend.
Any links that this happened before? lol