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The Smartest House [thesmartesthouse.com] is having its Memorial Day sale on Z-wave home automation gizmos. Some good deals and sales on rarely-reduced niche products. Unlike previous sales where free shipping started at $99, this time it starts at $59. If you're going big, there're additional discounts at $500 (2%) and $1000 (3%).

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Hubitat HEC-7 home automation hub $70 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN30 800LR double switch $26 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN37 800LR wall remote $23 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN73 800LR toggle switch $24 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN53 DC motor controller $24.45 [thesmartesthouse.com]

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For those interested in the Hubitat C-7, there is a seller on ebay that has them for $20 (OBO) plus $10 shipping for new (Other). I don't think SD allows ebay links, but it is the first result when I searched showing 900+ sold so far.

I have a c7 that works well for me and was going to post this same deal from the smartest house, but saw the better deal on ebay.
If you're considering home assistant, I would just go home assistant. You don't need one of these hubs to do that you just need a Z-Wave dongle, which they also sell. I would not install it on a pi though unless you already have it. Buy used a micro PC off eBay like a Lenovo tiny.
The 800 series z-wave range extender which also reports power outages for $22.95 is an awesome deal! I bought several products from the smartest home and have always been happy with them. I will say that one time I wrote a review critical of a device and instead of posting it they sent me an email saying that they would have their tech support work with me but it wasn't a technical issue, it was just a poorly designed product. I still trust them for buying stuff though.

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SeriousLlama437
05-21-2024 at 04:44 PM.
05-21-2024 at 04:44 PM.
Quote from Danimal86 :
Alright you z-wave brainiac's....here's one for you.
I want to be able to remotely turn on my Unraid Server remotely. With not wanting to figure out how to setup WOL, i'm thinking about adding one of these and daisy-chaining it in with the power switch to the pc case.
https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/...ys-20a-10a
You think it would work?

Get a smart plug, set bios settings to turn on when ac power is restored. We do this and also set it to turn on at 8am every day as an extra layer if we're away.
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05-21-2024 at 04:52 PM.
05-21-2024 at 04:52 PM.
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I've thought about this, but i have the server connected to a UPS and i'm worried that if the power outage is longer than 45ish min then it will trigger a clean shutdown for the server. If the bios is setup to power up the server when it sees voltage, it may try to fire right back up, then the ups would tell it to shut down, then bios would start it back up.......
I'm not 100% sure this is the case, but unclean shutdowns are bad for a server and triggers a parity check that takes about 32 hours to complete....so i try to avoid that.

I'm thinking if the power goes out when i'm away, once i can connect to my network remotely, then i could send a command to the relay via hubitat to press the power button.

That isn't how it works. If a clean shut down is triggered, it will be offline until either 1) you power it on/ there is a second power blip long enough to kill the battery a second time OR 2) you set it up to turn on daily. Bonus 3) you use a plug to power off power on to turn it on after the clean shutdown.

Clean shutdown will not make the bios try to turn the computer back on, but actual power loss will. I get where your head is, that's how I tend to think, and there's logic in it. Smilie you'll be good with a smart plug and the bios. Add the 8am startup as an extra layer and you'll be extra good.
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05-21-2024 at 04:53 PM.
05-21-2024 at 04:53 PM.
Quote from rollins88 :
It's a RAID box (MediaSonic, well reviewed on /r/datahoarder) but I use Unraid.
I get it and I'm glad it works for your use case. I've just personally had too many failures and weird issues with things that aren't running on a proper internal JBOD controller card and a native storage interface. RAID-Z2 is my target.

I recently saw an interesting Atom-based "everything box" with SFP+ ports and a proper rear SAS breakout connector supporting 4 drives that I've been considering. Power consumption is obviously higher than an N100 though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKUTzjA1grE
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05-21-2024 at 04:59 PM.
05-21-2024 at 04:59 PM.
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Grab an N100 mini PC from AliExpress for like $120 and a 4 bay RAID enclosure for $100 and you have a super capable home server for HA + a 4bay NAS that's easily expandable/upgradable in the future. That's the route I went.

Which RAID enclosure did you decide on?
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05-21-2024 at 05:00 PM.
05-21-2024 at 05:00 PM.
Quote from SSteveTX :
For those interested in the Hubitat C-7, there is a seller on ebay that has them for $20 (OBO) plus $10 shipping for new (Other). I don't think SD allows ebay links, but it is the first result when I searched showing 900+ sold so far.

I have a c7 that works well for me and was going to post this same deal from the smartest house, but saw the better deal on ebay.
Grabbed one with the 2 year square warranty for 3 bucks. With the C8 hub out, I'd rather grab a used one to tinker with than shell out for new but last gen
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05-21-2024 at 05:25 PM.
05-21-2024 at 05:25 PM.
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Which USB dongle is better to set up Home Assistant (new to this)? And is this all I need in terms of hardware other than a desktop to control my z-wave/zigbee switches? Thank you!

https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-800-series-z-wave-long-range-usb-stick-zst39?_pos=13&... [thesmartesthouse.com]

or

https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-usb-700-series-z-wave-plus-s2-stick-zst10-700?_pos=2&... [thesmartesthouse.com]

Want to know as well but my guess is that the 800 is better?

Can anyone confirm?
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05-21-2024 at 05:44 PM.
05-21-2024 at 05:44 PM.
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Want to know as well but my guess is that the 800 is better?

Can anyone confirm?

Home Assistant doesn't support Z-Wave Long Range with the new star network topology well yet, but they are working on it. I would go with the Z-Wave 800 adapter for that future-proofing. It's a big revamp of the Z-Wave standard that is actually pretty exciting. I've never been a fan of the latency introduced by the mesh topology, and a star topology where every LR device can connect directly to the hub should be much more performant. The range will also be ridiculous. I just hope the standard continues to survive in the face of the move to Thread and Matter. 2.4 GHz has always been a bad idea for IoT, but that's definitely the way the industry is moving.
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05-21-2024 at 05:53 PM.
05-21-2024 at 05:53 PM.
Quote from sirksel :
Does anyone have expertise as to this vs Home Assistant running on a Pi? I think this involves less setup, programming, trial/error, but I'm wondering if a device like this still has a use if one eventually decides to go the Home Assistant route? For example, with HA, do you still need a hub like this to interface with some devices?

My previous research had me trending toward trying HA, but... I'm thinking of picking up one of these as option value for that *someday* when I have time to reassess/expand my minimal automation setup. Classic SD pathology, I know...
I was reluctant to jump into Home Assistant until the Green unit became available. Instead of fussing with Raspberry Pi or PC, this allowed me to just put it on my network and start it up. I'm still learning and refining. It updates regularly without a glitch. Ive been using it for about 6 months in parallel with both Google Assistant devices and Alexa stuff. What I really love is that periodically those G & A devices have a cloud issue but the Green device chugs along.

My firxt victory was creating dependent chains of events. (Example) When I send a Chromecast stream to my audio receiver, Home Assistant automatically turns on my subwoofer.
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05-21-2024 at 06:20 PM.
05-21-2024 at 06:20 PM.
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Which RAID enclosure did you decide on?

Easiest to copy paste: Mediasonic PROBOX 4 Bay 3.5" SATA Hard Drive Enclosure – USB 3.0 eSATA Support 18TB HDD (HF2-SU3S3
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05-21-2024 at 07:40 PM.
05-21-2024 at 07:40 PM.
Quote from mrtramplefoot :
If you're considering home assistant, I would just go home assistant. You don't need one of these hubs to do that you just need a Z-Wave dongle, which they also sell. I would not install it on a pi though unless you already have it. Buy used a micro PC off eBay like a Lenovo tiny.

Nothing wrong with using a pi especially for getting started.
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05-21-2024 at 08:03 PM.
05-21-2024 at 08:03 PM.
I've been running Hubitat for 6 or 7 years now. It is pretty good. Not great. The company has failed miserably at implementing a decent UI builder. They depend tremendously on the goodwill of people in the scene. People have come and gone. HD+ is an app that offers some of the best UI options for Android. If that app didn't exist, I would be miserable.

One of the problems I found with Zigbee and Zwave is that there is standard functionality that isn't standard. For example, if you use smart plugs, there's no easy intuitive interface to set a timer to have it turn on or off in x minutes. There's no standard that allows you to set what a plug does if it experiences power loss. Does it return to the state it was in? Does it turn off or on?

Some of the WiFi devices you can get are just packaged with good apps.

Expect to spend a lot of time tinkering to get a basic system running. Smart homes are not anywhere near ready for the general public.

I would love to go down the Home Assistant rabbit hole, but I just don't have the time to dedicate to it.
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05-21-2024 at 10:52 PM.
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Quote from sirksel :
Does anyone have expertise as to this vs Home Assistant running on a Pi? I think this involves less setup, programming, trial/error, but I'm wondering if a device like this still has a use if one eventually decides to go the Home Assistant route? For example, with HA, do you still need a hub like this to interface with some devices?

My previous research had me trending toward trying HA, but... I'm thinking of picking up one of these as option value for that *someday* when I have time to reassess/expand my minimal automation setup. Classic SD pathology, I know...

Thanks to everyone for the great answers! Will probably use HA on an extra Beelink mini laying around rather than Pi based on everyone's advice, but maybe no on the Habitat. I guess it could be a low config alternative until I have the time to set HA up. One commenter said I could leave the Hubitat config in parallel. I might try that or just give it to family when/if I ever set up the HA. Smilie Thanks again. You all are the best.
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05-22-2024 at 05:26 AM.
05-22-2024 at 05:26 AM.
Quote from SSteveTX :
For those interested in the Hubitat C-7, there is a seller on ebay that has them for $20 (OBO) plus $10 shipping for new (Other). I don't think SD allows ebay links, but it is the first result when I searched showing 900+ sold so far.

I have a c7 that works well for me and was going to post this same deal from the smartest house, but saw the better deal on ebay.
Thank you for the recommendation. Offered starting from $10 which seems to have been auto declined and did $2 increase in the offer until my offer got auto accepted at $15 (I saw somewhere here that their offer was accepted at this price)
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05-22-2024 at 09:31 AM.
05-22-2024 at 09:31 AM.
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Home assistant rocks, but be aware that it writes to disk a lot. If you install it on a Pi's micro SD card, you will eventually lose the card due to excessive writes.
Oh really? I'm running HomeAssistant on my boot drive SSD on my Windows server PC. Should I switch it to run off a HDD?
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05-22-2024 at 02:22 PM.
05-22-2024 at 02:22 PM.
Quote from SlickdealUserF :
Thanks, so it looks like Z-Wave is a mesh network, so it requires devices would be able to reach each others or Hub in order to communicate. I would not assume that the signal would be powerful with such a small devices (even though they are hardwired to the 120V). So it sounds like I need a lot of them to spread reliable signal for the 2 story house in order to communicate without issue. I wonder how it suppose to work with HA that is connected though the Ethernet then (under your regular home WiFi only)
I had a 2-story house with C-7 and a handful of devices (less than 10) spread throughout the house. No issues with connectivity and no device had more than two skips.
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