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Breaking Bad - Harddrive Erase

2,725 282 July 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM
This completely wouldn't work.

You need to smear the bits around by moving the hard-drive "across/back n forth" the magnetic field.

Simply flinging it one way wouldn't do jack shit.vomit

There's also no way you'd have enough power from 40 car batteries to cover that distance.


Those magnetic cranes only work because they lower the magnet until it touches the car directly.


Complete silliness vomitvomit
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wanderingwillow
07-16-2012 at 11:32 AM.
07-16-2012 at 11:32 AM.
Its a television show....
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DBC
07-16-2012 at 01:37 PM.
07-16-2012 at 01:37 PM.
If the magnets are strong enough to move things feet away, then why didn't they break the drive shaft during the test?
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tp4tissue
07-16-2012 at 02:53 PM.
07-16-2012 at 02:53 PM.
Quote from DBC :
If the magnets are strong enough to move things feet away, then why didn't they break the drive shaft during the test?
The power of the magnet in the show was completely "hollywood". They tied the stuff to wires for the shoot the wall scene, and took out the wires in post.

Eitherway, it would NOT break the shaft, and even if it did break the shaft, that wouldn't erase the data.

The couplings and washers in the drive are also often alu
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07-16-2012 at 06:56 PM.
07-16-2012 at 06:56 PM.
Quote from tp4tissue :
The power of the magnet in the show was completely "hollywood". They tied the stuff to wires for the shoot the wall scene, and took out the wires in post.

Eitherway, it would NOT break the shaft, and even if it did break the shaft, that wouldn't erase the data.

The couplings and washers in the drive are also often alu
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07-16-2012 at 08:45 PM.
07-16-2012 at 08:45 PM.
Quote from tp4tissue :
This completely wouldn't work.
You need to smear the bits around by moving the hard-drive "across/back n forth" the magnetic field.
Simply flinging it one way wouldn't do jack shit.vomit
There's also no way you'd have enough power from 40 car batteries to cover that distance.
Those magnetic cranes only work because they lower the magnet until it touches the car directly.
Complete silliness vomitvomit
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07-17-2012 at 05:26 AM.
07-17-2012 at 05:26 AM.
Wait, do you think "Falling Skies" is real too?
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07-17-2012 at 06:12 AM.
07-17-2012 at 06:12 AM.
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Wait, do you think "Falling Skies" is real too?
Nope.
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Mavtech
07-17-2012 at 01:23 PM.
07-17-2012 at 01:23 PM.
Holy crap! And here I thought I picked shows apart way too much!

If the laptop slams against the wall hard enough, it could shatter the platters in the hard drive. So, it could have worked that way.
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menace33
07-17-2012 at 01:30 PM.
07-17-2012 at 01:30 PM.
If the magnetic field is strong enough then yes a magnet of that magnitude might not wipe a HDD through "2 feet of reinforced concrete" but it could cause enough disk corruption to where the videos would be worthless to piece together. The extra measure of the laptop getting smashed would only help reinforce that the hard drive would be almost impossible to get anything off of.
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tp4tissue
07-17-2012 at 09:44 PM.
07-17-2012 at 09:44 PM.
Quote from menace33 :
If the magnetic field is strong enough then yes a magnet of that magnitude might not wipe a HDD through "2 feet of reinforced concrete" but it could cause enough disk corruption to where the videos would be worthless to piece together. The extra measure of the laptop getting smashed would only help reinforce that the hard drive would be almost impossible to get anything off of.
No absolutely not. Look at the way hard drives are built, there's no way you can shatter those platters by flinging it.

Everything around the harddrive (the laptop) cushions the drive itself. Plastic in a high speed collision is actually VERY good elastic dampening to reduce the impulse against the drive itself.


EVEN if the drive was shattered, they can still scan the magnetic data OFF the disk.

The disk doesn't have to be working whatsoever.

The only way to get rid of data is smearing the bits. Frown

Quote from Mavtech :
Holy crap! And here I thought I picked shows apart way too much!

If the laptop slams against the wall hard enough, it could shatter the platters in the hard drive. So, it could have worked that way.
doesn't matter if those platters shatter, they can either use microscopy OR other scanning techniques to scan the shattered pieces for data.

Given that this is a high profile drug case, they WOULD go through the trouble of doing that. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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07-17-2012 at 09:46 PM.
07-17-2012 at 09:46 PM.
Quote from wanderingwillow :
Its a television show....
It is NOT just a television show. EEK!
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menace33
07-17-2012 at 11:20 PM.
07-17-2012 at 11:20 PM.
Quote from tp4tissue :
No absolutely not. Look at the way hard drives are built, there's no way you can shatter those platters by flinging it.

Everything around the harddrive (the laptop) cushions the drive itself. Plastic in a high speed collision is actually VERY good elastic dampening to reduce the impulse against the drive itself.


EVEN if the drive was shattered, they can still scan the magnetic data OFF the disk.

The disk doesn't have to be working whatsoever.

The only way to get rid of data is smearing the bits. Frown
Never said shatter. Just enough to damage the platters. Just enough to keep them from spinning and just enough to perhaps cause surface damage and data corruption. Rebuilding that data would be increasingly more difficult.

And going back again, data corruption isn't very difficult when introducing a hard drive to a magnetic field of that size. Add in the possible physical damage (a slipped platter), and what they can retrieve becomes almost impossible. Please do not misinterpret smashed laptop to meaning smashed HDD or that I was meaning the absolute side of things in hard drive destruction.
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