Another tipping thread

Quote from z2g : As someone mentioned, there was a similar case not long ago. It comes down to the language. If the menu states that it's a mandatory "service fee" or similar phrase, patrons have to pay it. However, if it states that "gratuity" is mandatory for parties of x or more, then it's not enforceable since, by definition, gratuities are based on patrons' choice. So, if the restaurant's menu says gratuity, they would be in BIG trouble if they illegally detained a patron for refusing to pay it.

Egg-xactly - therefore, there is no such law in any State that would uphold this for any restaurant if they took a person to court over something like this; as they listed it as a "gratuity" - which means it is up to the customer's discretion as to what amount they wish to "leave their server".

This is what OP simply cannot get through his warped wrapped up thinking because he "once was a waiter"

Quote from Piccaboo : Egg-xactly - therefore, there is no such law in any State that would uphold this for any restaurant if they took a person to court over something like this; as they listed it as a "gratuity" - which means it is up to the customer's discretion as to what amount they wish to "leave their server". This is what OP simply cannot get through his warped wrapped up thinking because he "once was a waiter"

Lol......I noticed after visiting many forums and waiters' forums that many ppl in the restaurant industry (or formerly) live in another world with regards to tipping. To many of them, the standard tip of 15% is a minimum despite how bad the service is.

Quote from z2g : Lol......I noticed after visiting many forums and waiters' forums that many ppl in the restaurant industry (or formerly) live in another world with regards to tipping. To many of them, the standard tip of 15% is a minimum despite how bad the service is.

My niece still is a waitress, although she is employed full time - she does it for the extra cash. We have gone to the restaurant she works at on the weekends. One night we were there in her section and, a huge party came in - she said to us oh gawd, I'm going to get a crappy tip from them, just looking at the people in the "party" that sat down. We asked why, and she explained it to us ( I won't go into it). Although this restaurant states 18% gratuity for large parties such as what sat down; there was nothing she was able to do about it, but smile and give them great service. We ended up being there until they left, and she came over and said yep, got a crappy tip, around 10% for a party of 10 people. We left her a 20% tip that night, which is around our norm; unless we get really bad service and/or the meal is really bad, and they do nothing about it.

But I will NOT pay 18% gratuity simply because it states it; it's up to me what I choose to pay, and if they insist they want to add that on - I look at them and say fine - but you are going to sort change your server - and I will then put that tip on my Credit Card - and not leave a cash tip. Otherwise, that server would have received 20% and it would have been "cash". So they screw themselves over it they are really insistent upon this

I understand some servers get screwed with larger parties - that's all in the game of being a server - it can't be helped - but doing it long enough like my niece - they seem to recognize when a large party comes in - whether it's going to be a "bad tip party or a good tip party" for some reason. why.

Quote from Frogstar : Don't forget the other people carrying torches and pitchforks

Quote from Frogstar : Don't forget the other people carrying torches and pitchforks

Quote from z2g : As someone mentioned, there was a similar case not long ago. It comes down to the language. If the menu states that it's a mandatory "service fee" or similar phrase, patrons have to pay it. However, if it states that "gratuity" is mandatory for parties of x or more, then it's not enforceable since, by definition, gratuities are based on patrons' choice. So, if the restaurant's menu says gratuity, they would be in BIG trouble if they illegally detained a patron for refusing to pay it.

Quote from Piccaboo : Egg-xactly - therefore, there is no such law in any State that would uphold this for any restaurant if they took a person to court over something like this; as they listed it as a "gratuity" - which means it is up to the customer's discretion as to what amount they wish to "leave their server". This is what OP simply cannot get through his warped wrapped up thinking because he "once was a waiter"

It says gratuity on their menu (see below) but it has an extra 't' in it. Would that exempt them?

Quote : *** A 17% gratutity will be added for parties of 5 or more *** *** Prices subject to change without notice!!!!! *** http://www.la-fisherman.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=148

Quote from Zoe Moon : It says gratuity on their menu (see below) but it has an extra 't' in it. Would that exempt them?

It should if they can't even spell the freaking word correctly

Quote from Maleficent :

Is it possible any of us from this thread is in that angry mob with torches

Well, maybe that little one on the far left could be Avly - she's short enough, and doesn't appear to be wearing her heels

I don't recognize anyone, and I don't see no pitchforks

Early May seems like a strange time for the nuts to be dropping from the trees.

Quote from Iaaaiws : Early May seems like a strange time for the nuts to be dropping from the trees.

I don't think so, with this warmer than normal weather we have been having, seems like a lot of nuts have been dropping lately