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PenFed Lowers Mortgage Rates Again! 5/5 2.75%, 30 Yr 3.375% (Limited Time Offer)

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Today I received an email from PenFed (Pentagon Federal Credit Union) touting new lower mortgage rates: "Limited-Time Offer -- PenFed Lowers Mortgage Rates AGAIN!"

The 5/5 adjustable rate mortgage is now just 2.75%, with no origination fees and PenFed paying closing costs up to $10K. (There's also the 5 year HEL with a 1.99% rate; the HEL rate is not new.)
https://www.penfed.org/55-Adjusta...-Mortgage/
https://www.penfed.org/Home-Equit...-Overview/

The 30-year fixed rate mortgage is now just 3.375%, with no origination fees (per fine print on the application page).
https://www.penfed.org/30-Year-Fixed-Mortgage/

PenFed used to charge a 1% origination fee on all fixed rate mortgages, but right now the 30-year fixed rate mortgage seems to be exempt!

There are many ways to join PenFed; for example, you can make a donation to the National Military Family Association. The PenFed website has further details: https://www.penfed.org/
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EVEN BETTER! PenFed 5/5 down to 2.5% with 0 points


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arbitrager
09-07-2012 at 01:32 AM.
09-07-2012 at 01:32 AM.
Quote from Enchiladas :
That's what I'm wondering. My current loan is through Penfed at 4.675%, and we're going to be in this home for 6-8 more years. Is it worthwhile for me to refinance?

Yes, most definitely you should if this loan has no/minimal fees. Assuming you have $150K in loans at 30 years, you're easily saving $38K+ in interest as well as shave a little over $100 in monthly payments, therefore recouping your fees within probably 4 to 7 months depending on fees.


Mortgage attributes Loan 1 Loan 2
Loan duration 30.00 years 30.00 years
Principal due $.00 $.00
Principal paid $150,000.00 $150,000.00
Total interest expense $127,635.02 $88,730.37
Down payment $.00 $.00
Points $.00 $.00
Other loan costs $.00 $.00
Private mortgage insurance (PMI) NA* NA*
Total mortgage cost $277,635.02 $238,730.37
Savings . . . $38,904.65
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cyfan
09-07-2012 at 05:20 AM.
09-07-2012 at 05:20 AM.
Apparently my experience was totally different. The people I worked with were dumb dumb dumb. They first refused me a loan even though I could've paid cash for the house. (When I pointed that out all I got was more "dumb" from them.) Then it was a nightmare of delays. My person would be gone for a week but no one would pick up the work. I finally went elsewhere.
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wakko
09-07-2012 at 05:46 AM.
09-07-2012 at 05:46 AM.
First refinance, but when you refi, do you need to put down 20% deposit again?
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Spartanicus
09-07-2012 at 05:48 AM.
09-07-2012 at 05:48 AM.
Quote from wakko :
First refinance, but when you refi, do you need to put down 20% deposit again?

Well not if your place has 20% worth of equity.
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regrossman
09-07-2012 at 06:02 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:02 AM.
Tried for the 5/5 ARM. A bit disappointing as you are responsible for up front fees/appraisal even if you don't get approved as was my case. My house dropped 35% in value since 2009 so way to upside down to refi. Going to go with the FHA streamline refi at 2.75%.
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spooky981
09-07-2012 at 06:04 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:04 AM.
Quote from wakko :
First refinance, but when you refi, do you need to put down 20% deposit again?
Negative. When you put the 20% down on the original purchase, you don't actually "lose" that money. It just becomes equity in your home rather than cash in your pocket.

When you refinance you still have that equity.

Just be warned that if your home has lost substantial value since your initial purchase (like most people nowadays) then it makes the refinance process a little trickier. I'd love a refinance right now but my home wouldn't appraise for anything close to what I would need it to.
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Lysogen
09-07-2012 at 06:10 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:10 AM.
Anyone know there min LTV for refi's? Is it the standard 20% or will they go lower?
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Roland Deschain
09-07-2012 at 06:15 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:15 AM.
Likely a silly question but can anyone provide ballpark figures for closing costs through penfed on a $400,000 home?
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Roland Deschain
09-07-2012 at 06:22 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:22 AM.
Quote from Rokket :
The 5/5 adjustable rate mortgage is a no-cost refinance, as far as I can tell. The 30-year fixed rate mortgage does have closing costs, but no origination fees/points. If you click the green "get started" button, you'll see the FAQs which detail closing costs. PenFed does NOT charge any application fees or processing fees. Hope this helps!
just saw this post. Can I see this FAQ without being a member? I'd like to get an idea of closing costs.
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xceebeex
09-07-2012 at 06:24 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:24 AM.
I just got an email about this yesterday and I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it with whatever closing costs there are. I don't think we will be in this house more than 2 years so I am almost wondering if a 5/5 ARM is worth it for us since that gives you 5 years at the low rate.

I might have to look in to it a little more.
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09-07-2012 at 06:30 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:30 AM.
Quote from Roland Deschain :
just saw this post. Can I see this FAQ without being a member? I'd like to get an idea of closing costs.
Yes, you can! After you click the "get started" button, you'll be taken to the application page and the FAQs are on the left. You don't actually have to apply (or be a member) in order to view the FAQs.

Also, the customer service agents are pretty great; feel free to call them with any questions. I've had a PenFed mortgage and highly recommend them.
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spooky981
09-07-2012 at 06:35 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:35 AM.
Quote from xceebeex :
I just got an email about this yesterday and I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it with whatever closing costs there are. I don't think we will be in this house more than 2 years so I am almost wondering if a 5/5 ARM is worth it for us since that gives you 5 years at the low rate.

I might have to look in to it a little more.
I have so many idiot friends who will never consider anything other than a 30 year fixed. The reality is that your first 1-3 homes won't last you more than five years. So why pay an additional $150 per month for 25 years of unnecessary security?
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xceebeex
09-07-2012 at 06:41 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:41 AM.
Quote from spooky981 :
I have so many idiot friends who will never consider anything other than a 30 year fixed. The reality is that your first 1-3 homes won't last you more than five years. So why pay an additional $150 per month for 25 years of unnecessary security?
Well this is my first home and I have been in it since March of 2006, so I am going on 7 years. Also, what complicates things for me is that we had a SEVERE flood 1 year ago today which affected home values significantly. My street got hit real bad, but my house was on of the ones least affected because I sit slightly higher. My basement was full of water, the garage had about 4-5 feet in it (which sat slightly lower than my main floor of the house) and then my flooring on the main floor of the home was all damaged.

Long story short, I am not sure how hard of a time I will have selling my house this close to after the flood even though my house wasn't as bad as others and is actually much nicer now since I did a lot of the work myself with the insurance money so I could get nicer things.

Depending on what the closing costs are for the 5/5 ARM, I think it is probably ideal for me though because both my wife and I want out as soon as possible really. My mortgage is on $69k right now too and it is at 6%.
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Roland Deschain
09-07-2012 at 06:43 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:43 AM.
Quote from mmlovers90 :
We just did a refi on our home two weeks ago with Pedfed...15 year fixed rate VA loan for 2.75%! Excellent service from them...would highly recommend!
I realize some would deem this sensitive information and you may not be willing to divulge..but in case you are willing, would you mind pm'ing me the closing costs you paid as well as the amount you refinanced? I'm also looking at the 15 yr fixed.
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Spartanicus
09-07-2012 at 06:49 AM.
09-07-2012 at 06:49 AM.
Be careful is all I can add here. While in the Military I needed a small loan, the on-base credit union had loan programs that I was about to go with. Later while walking thru a large mall I walked into the first bank and asked about loans ... that bank and I learned alot! They were amazed at what I was being screwed over for on that loan! From then on I never assumed that anyone had my best interest but me! Now that I made it into my 50's that also applies to AAPR - they too are not in it for you!


A true slickdealer would .... Shop around and keep em honest.
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