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PenFed Lowers Mortgage Rates Again! 5/5 2.75%, 30 Yr 3.375% (Limited Time Offer)

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Today I received an email from PenFed (Pentagon Federal Credit Union) touting new lower mortgage rates: "Limited-Time Offer -- PenFed Lowers Mortgage Rates AGAIN!"

The 5/5 adjustable rate mortgage is now just 2.75%, with no origination fees and PenFed paying closing costs up to $10K. (There's also the 5 year HEL with a 1.99% rate; the HEL rate is not new.)
https://www.penfed.org/55-Adjusta...-Mortgage/
https://www.penfed.org/Home-Equit...-Overview/

The 30-year fixed rate mortgage is now just 3.375%, with no origination fees (per fine print on the application page).
https://www.penfed.org/30-Year-Fixed-Mortgage/

PenFed used to charge a 1% origination fee on all fixed rate mortgages, but right now the 30-year fixed rate mortgage seems to be exempt!

There are many ways to join PenFed; for example, you can make a donation to the National Military Family Association. The PenFed website has further details: https://www.penfed.org/
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Last Edited by rdmustang1 May 1, 2013 at 08:12 AM
EVEN BETTER! PenFed 5/5 down to 2.5% with 0 points


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OhioState-
06-06-2013 at 08:22 PM.
06-06-2013 at 08:22 PM.
Quote from kfunk7 :
you can assign an agent when you apply. I dealt with 2 so far, Nancy Portee, lady with bag full of shiet, I did everything she told me to do, even paying off $30k auto loan and guess what? she didn't get it approved. Prompt response in the beginning but after she knew she f*ed up, not much communication afterwards. Second time was through Thomas Racioppe. I didn't have problem communicating with him through email, he always called me if he needed to talk about something personal. He is very thorough but can be felt slow at times. He got it done in 31 or 32 days after signing the contract so can't complain. Problem I had was the selling agent trying to rush and pissing my loan agent off because the seller wanted to close ASAP and get paid.

Thanks, I didn't know that. I will request Thomas Racioppe.
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kasak
06-11-2013 at 07:23 AM.
06-11-2013 at 07:23 AM.
In a short period, the interest rate on 30year fixed slowly rose from 3% (begining of May) to 3.875% (yesterday).
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Oatmeal1
06-13-2013 at 04:20 PM.
06-13-2013 at 04:20 PM.
Quote from kasak :
In a short period, the interest rate on 30year fixed slowly rose from 3% (begining of May) to 3.875% (yesterday).
I'm sorry but I thought fixed means your rates are locked no?
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kfunk7
06-13-2013 at 11:00 PM.
06-13-2013 at 11:00 PM.
Quote from Oatmeal1 :
I'm sorry but I thought fixed means your rates are locked no?
He simply meant that the interest rate went up 0.875% in about a month.
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Gameross
06-14-2013 at 01:43 AM.
06-14-2013 at 01:43 AM.
Quote from kfunk7 :
He simply meant that the interest rate went up 0.875% in about a month.
Which is rediculous since the Fed rate hasn't moved I think.
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supermom11
06-25-2013 at 12:30 PM.
06-25-2013 at 12:30 PM.
penfed did the rate lock and the rates went down. does any one know why if they will honor the new low rate?
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Scubasta77
06-25-2013 at 01:59 PM.
06-25-2013 at 01:59 PM.
Quote from supermom11 :
penfed did the rate lock and the rates went down. does any one know why if they will honor the new low rate?
No once your locked your locked. Up or down
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iowe2much
07-03-2013 at 12:09 PM.
07-03-2013 at 12:09 PM.
Hope someone can give me some quick advice. I applied for a refi through my current mortgage co. PNC, and they want to close in 2 days - Friday 7/5. The problem I have is that I'm not sure that I'm getting a good deal. They sent me a settlement statement HUD-1 today which lists settlement charges of $6071.15.

The payoff amount listed for my current mortgage is $136,491.19, the new loan amount is $139,500 and they want $1462.03 in cash/certified check at closing Friday. They are rolling my current escrow of $1600 into new loan.

This is for a 20 year loan at 3.875%

Fees I see are:
Origination: $650
Points: $1220.63
Credit Report: $15.05
Tax service: $14
Flood Certification: $5
Daily Interest (7/1013 to 8/1/13): $325.82
Refer to Addendum for additional fees (but I see no addendum): $714.93
Reserves deposited with lender (homeowners insurance 12 months @ $81.75 = $981, Property Taxes 5 months at $233.34 = $1166.70, Aggregate Adjustment = $51.93)
Settlement or closing fee: $550
Lenders title insurance: $320
Government Recording charges: $175

Anyone think this is crap or is it ok? Keep in mind my house is not worth much more than the $136K or so I owe on it.
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djsteveoh
07-03-2013 at 01:51 PM.
07-03-2013 at 01:51 PM.
Has anyone used the Real Estate Rewards? $2000 and .5 closing credit sounds enticing. https://www.penfed.org/Real-Estate-Rewards-Info/
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LivninSC
07-03-2013 at 01:55 PM.
07-03-2013 at 01:55 PM.
Quote from djsteveoh :
Has anyone used the Real Estate Rewards? $2000 and .5 closing credit sounds enticing. https://www.penfed.org/Real-Estate-Rewards-Info/
There are other places like Redfin and some other realty programs that do a similar $ credit at close. I have had friends that used them and some found them to be fine while others said they didn't seem to work as hard as they expected.

Then again I used a full price agent and she literally came out to my house one time, took some pictures, and put it on the MLS so I would say a lot of it actually depends on what agent you get.

As a buyer I would totally use a service like that though.
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Jaynos
07-03-2013 at 02:09 PM.
07-03-2013 at 02:09 PM.
Quote from iowe2much :
Hope someone can give me some quick advice. I applied for a refi through my current mortgage co. PNC, and they want to close in 2 days - Friday 7/5. The problem I have is that I'm not sure that I'm getting a good deal. They sent me a settlement statement HUD-1 today which lists settlement charges of $6071.15.

The payoff amount listed for my current mortgage is $136,491.19, the new loan amount is $139,500 and they want $1462.03 in cash/certified check at closing Friday. They are rolling my current escrow of $1600 into new loan.

This is for a 20 year loan at 3.875%

Fees I see are:
Origination: $650
Points: $1220.63
Credit Report: $15.05
Tax service: $14
Flood Certification: $5
Daily Interest (7/1013 to 8/1/13): $325.82
Refer to Addendum for additional fees (but I see no addendum): $714.93
Reserves deposited with lender (homeowners insurance 12 months @ $81.75 = $981, Property Taxes 5 months at $233.34 = $1166.70, Aggregate Adjustment = $51.93)
Settlement or closing fee: $550
Lenders title insurance: $320
Government Recording charges: $175

Anyone think this is crap or is it ok? Keep in mind my house is not worth much more than the $136K or so I owe on it.
I'm not an expert but all those fee's sound like BS to me. To really understand your question I would need to know how long you have had your current mortgage (30yr?) and what is current mortgage rate you are paying? Basically if you have been paying on your current mortgage for I don't know like seven years or more then you are probably just getting to a point where a good portion of your monthly payment attacks the principal and not just the front end loaded interest. If you do this new refi and only save $100 or so a month but also get reset back to paying the front loaded interest (yes even on a 20 year) then it will take a long damn time to recoup all these fee's. I think it sounds like BS. If you have been with this bank and have been a good customer then why do they want to screw you? I'm not surprised, all banks do this and it pisses me off. A refi should not (in my opinion) cost several thousand dollars. I'd call and complain on daily basis. I'm pretty sure the fee's you listed are commonly referred to as junk fee's. Id tell them just that and look for another bank. If you really want to refi, why pay full refi price with these guys?
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nappyloxs
07-03-2013 at 02:29 PM.
07-03-2013 at 02:29 PM.
I'm thinking of using penned for my heloc? anyone have experience with them for that or recommend someone better?
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OhioState-
07-03-2013 at 03:01 PM.
07-03-2013 at 03:01 PM.
Quote from iowe2much :
Hope someone can give me some quick advice. I applied for a refi through my current mortgage co. PNC, and they want to close in 2 days - Friday 7/5. The problem I have is that I'm not sure that I'm getting a good deal. They sent me a settlement statement HUD-1 today which lists settlement charges of $6071.15.

The payoff amount listed for my current mortgage is $136,491.19, the new loan amount is $139,500 and they want $1462.03 in cash/certified check at closing Friday. They are rolling my current escrow of $1600 into new loan.

This is for a 20 year loan at 3.875%

Fees I see are:
Origination: $650
Points: $1220.63
Credit Report: $15.05
Tax service: $14
Flood Certification: $5
Daily Interest (7/1013 to 8/1/13): $325.82
Refer to Addendum for additional fees (but I see no addendum): $714.93
Reserves deposited with lender (homeowners insurance 12 months @ $81.75 = $981, Property Taxes 5 months at $233.34 = $1166.70, Aggregate Adjustment = $51.93)
Settlement or closing fee: $550
Lenders title insurance: $320
Government Recording charges: $175

Anyone think this is crap or is it ok? Keep in mind my house is not worth much more than the $136K or so I owe on it.
Way too much in fees. IMO. What is your current rate?
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iowe2much
07-03-2013 at 03:38 PM.
07-03-2013 at 03:38 PM.
Quote from Jaynos :
I'm not an expert but all those fee's sound like BS to me. To really understand your question I would need to know how long you have had your current mortgage (30yr?) and what is current mortgage rate you are paying? Basically if you have been paying on your current mortgage for I don't know like seven years or more then you are probably just getting to a point where a good portion of your monthly payment attacks the principal and not just the front end loaded interest. If you do this new refi and only save $100 or so a month but also get reset back to paying the front loaded interest (yes even on a 20 year) then it will take a long damn time to recoup all these fee's. I think it sounds like BS. If you have been with this bank and have been a good customer then why do they want to screw you? I'm not surprised, all banks do this and it pisses me off. A refi should not (in my opinion) cost several thousand dollars. I'd call and complain on daily basis. I'm pretty sure the fee's you listed are commonly referred to as junk fee's. Id tell them just that and look for another bank. If you really want to refi, why pay full refi price with these guys?
Quote from OhioState- :
Way too much in fees. IMO. What is your current rate?
I thought the fees might be out of line so I cancelled my Friday closing and requested the loan request be cancelled as well but loan officer practically begged me to not cancel loan request until Friday so he can run some numbers (not holding my breath, bet he's just going to increase the loan amount) but I'm pretty much 100% sure I'm going to cancel the whole thing. I've had this mortgage for about 10 years so I have 20 left and have never had a missed or late payment. My current rate is 5.25%.

Thank you Jaynos and OhioState.
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iowe2much
07-03-2013 at 03:44 PM.
07-03-2013 at 03:44 PM.
Quote from iowe2much :
Hope someone can give me some quick advice. I applied for a refi through my current mortgage co. PNC, and they want to close in 2 days - Friday 7/5. The problem I have is that I'm not sure that I'm getting a good deal. They sent me a settlement statement HUD-1 today which lists settlement charges of $6071.15.

The payoff amount listed for my current mortgage is $136,491.19, the new loan amount is $139,500 and they want $1462.03 in cash/certified check at closing Friday. They are rolling my current escrow of $1600 into new loan.

This is for a 20 year loan at 3.875%

Fees I see are:
Origination: $650
Points: $1220.63
Credit Report: $15.05
Tax service: $14
Flood Certification: $5
Daily Interest (7/1013 to 8/1/13): $325.82
Refer to Addendum for additional fees (but I see no addendum): $714.93
Reserves deposited with lender (homeowners insurance 12 months @ $81.75 = $981, Property Taxes 5 months at $233.34 = $1166.70, Aggregate Adjustment = $51.93)
Settlement or closing fee: $550
Lenders title insurance: $320
Government Recording charges: $175

Anyone think this is crap or is it ok? Keep in mind my house is not worth much more than the $136K or so I owe on it.
Replying to myself here just to add that I asked for and received the "addendum" which states that the $714.93 is to pay taxes which are due in August, but aren't they already collecting that as part of the "Reserves deposited with lender" which includes an entire year of Insurance and 5 months of taxes?
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