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I am tired of all of these bandwagon PBS fans.

5,642 884 October 7, 2012 at 10:53 PM in Rant
All I see is a bunch of retards pretending to be PBS viewers because Mitt Romney doesn't like PBS and wants to get rid of the CPB.

Seriously, fark the whole lot of them. I hope they all die choking on ham sandwiches.

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Last Edited by calistyle October 7, 2012 at 11:43 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding me. Frown

I hate the all of the people who are part of the new PBS is cool, and I am also cool because I watch PBS trend. The old viewers, the ones who are loyal viewers are the ones that I have real respect for.

These people, the new fans are no different than the people who didn't care for/hated America before 9/11 and suddenly became neocons right after the towers were brought down.

And just so you know, I watch the newshour ever night, and most of the their primetime programs. I've got much love for my local PBS and NPR stations even though they have tried to censor programming and love to pimp the catholic church on their channels.
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AngryPirate
10-10-2012 at 08:12 PM.
10-10-2012 at 08:12 PM.
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I spent about 10 years working for non-profs, including one that offered mental health counseling, CASA, autism support, teen leadership, to name but a few. I know that it's hard. I think that there are some ways to help with these issues. We have a local group that does weatherizations for the elderly to help lower their utilities. A local culinary school helps with our meals on wheels, and local grocery stores provide adult diapers, whose packags have been damaged, to the autism support program. I believe it works best when locals take care or locals because we can b more creative and truly seve those In the most need, instead of blanket federal programs.
yeah...our adult daycare works with alzheimers and dimentia patients and we also do that weatherization thing as well. I'm pretty sure most of our funding/reimbursement comes from Medicare/Medicaid and other government funding...but don't quote me on that...I don't work in the billing dept...I just fix the "modems" when they're not working
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10-10-2012 at 08:20 PM.
10-10-2012 at 08:20 PM.
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My quibble was with the 47% figure. I don't doubt these bottom feeders are part of the 47% but what % of the 47% are they? There will always be a freeloader problem and we need to crack down on those who game the system and I wish I knew an easy answer to that problem, but I don't. Limiting the # of kids that can receive benefits seem like a reasonable start.

You're right. A cut off for the number of family members would be a start. The Annie E. Casey Foundation. http://www.aecf.org/MajorInitiati...COUNT.aspx does probably the most indepth research into the plight of children in America each year and publishes a report of their findings in a book called KIDS COUNT. It rates a number of sociology-economic factors that lead to or are caused by poverty and the things that come with it. It is used as a mainstay in grant writing. I just think it falls back to accountability . I don't care how rich or poor younare, you control your happiness which goes a very long way towards your success. Viktor Frankl"s Man's Search for Meaning is a prime example of this idiom.
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10-10-2012 at 08:23 PM.
10-10-2012 at 08:23 PM.
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yeah...our adult daycare works with alzheimers and dimentia patients and we also do that weatherization thing as well. I'm pretty sure most of our funding/reimbursement comes from Medicare/Medicaid and other government funding...but don't quote me on that...I don't work in the billing dept...I just fix the "modems" when they're not working
Hey, very job is important. I use to tell my students to never tak lightly even the most entry level of positions. The CEO can take a two week vacation and the office will be ticking right along when he/she returns. Let the maintenance man take off two weeks and watch all Hell break loose! laugh out loud
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10-10-2012 at 08:55 PM.
10-10-2012 at 08:55 PM.
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Hey, very job is important. I use to tell my students to never tak lightly even the most entry level of positions. The CEO can take a two week vacation and the office will be ticking right along when he/she returns. Let the maintenance man take off two weeks and watch all Hell break loose! laugh out loud
Oh yeah...because I work on the computers there, they automatically assume I know everything about anything that plugs into a wall. My title is Network Admin, but my responsibilities also apparently include fixing the fire alarm, security alarm, phone system, DVD players, TV's, repairing lift chairs (the ones that lift all the way up to help people stand up), opening LCD monitors and resoldering bad capacitors, running the sound board when we have events, fixing cell phones (I don't even own one), and pretty much anything else that plugs into a wall or has a computer chip in it...lol. I don't really mind though...I'll give anything a whirl. Google/Youtube almost always has the answer.

So yeah, I usually get plenty of phone calls when I'm on "vacation". Smilie
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10-10-2012 at 10:45 PM.
10-10-2012 at 10:45 PM.
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Saying that of all the government pork out there PBS is what we need to cut is ridiculous. The amount of government money PBS receives is miniscule when compared to all the other things we spend money on. Yet PBS provides lots of educational programs for kids, without blasting commercials for junk foods and toys at them.
Everyone will complain when it's "their" favorite taxpayer-funded program being cut. The bottom line is, the federal government (via the taxpayers) isn't supposed to be funding all this stuff.

We're broke. We have $16 trillion dollars of debt. The deficit is over $1 TRILLION dollars every year. As nice as it would be to have more episodes of Wishbone, it's not worth forcing taxpayers to borrow money from China to do it.
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Come on, we're talking about 0.012% of the federal budget. Pick something that will make an actual dent in our spending, not PBS. I suspect it was a very clever ploy to drag people into this pointless argument so we wouldn't focus on what Romney really intends to cut from the budget. He claims he has a plan yet he won't share any specifics.
I think it is more a clever ploy that Obama wants people to focus on Big Bird instead of focusing on his record of the past four years and his current plans (if he has any?) for the next four years.
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The very notion that PBS should have it's funding cut implies that PBS is part of the problem. It's not.
Yes, it is.
Quote from z2g :
As far as making Obama look like an idiot, how is that? Sure, Obama didn't do well in the first debate. But, I think it was more of an issue of Obama not wanting to be too combative. Wanted to play "nice".
I think Obama didn't do well because he's clownshoes.

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laugh out loud

Someone like that should be taken serious
That was just netanyahu explaining things while guest-starring on Sesame Street. He sang a song about the letter "i" in the next segment.

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LOL!!!
Big Bird is richer than Mitt Romney. True story.
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10-11-2012 at 01:15 AM.
10-11-2012 at 01:15 AM.
Those that would argue that gov't benefits are being abused and use maybe one or two examples from their own life and somehow make it looks like the whole system is being abused and that closing it all down or making it private would magically fix everything is foolishness and wishful thinking

To expect anything to be 100% fraud/abuse free is truly wishful dreaming

You can't even find one private company that can run a business 100% fraud free.. How many items do stores lose to shoplifters, scammers, and fraudsters daily. Have you read some of the comments and post from people on Sd', FW, CAG, on some deals/coupons page.. It looks like everybody is looking for a way to scam and game the system.

Imagine if every business would close down just because they find that they are being abused ? that is the same demand you would want from gov't services just because that they may be abused.
But yet companies take it, because they see that they can still do more good ( make money ) even if there maybe inherent fraud in their system, which is NO DIFFERENT then how the gov't see itself..

True they may be scammed by some people, but in the overall picture their services help more people then they are being scammed by, no different then all business.. Businesses just accept it as part of doing business.. The gov't would see it more as part of doing good.

If you see someone scamming the system, why don't you report it? call up your local gov't ? why don't you call up some media/new program if all else fails.. I'm sure some right wing program like Fox or Rush Limburgh would love to know that there are people ripping off the gov't.

Oh wait Fox and Limburgh aren't in the business of news in general, they don't really care about making the system better, if they can't attack liberals or get their base blood boiling they don' t care... These people do more harm to society then help... Instead of making the service better, they just want to destroy and close everything, hurting all the innocents so to punish the few bad apples. And using the few bad apples as the rallying call to shut down every gov't services..

Imagine if the private sector worked that way, you got scammed by a few bad customers, and all the stockholder are rallying to shut the company down because of it...
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10-11-2012 at 03:23 AM.
10-11-2012 at 03:23 AM.
Vote for Obama, he is now running on saving Big Bird because he remains clueless about everything else. Maybe he could win a debate against Big Bird?
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10-11-2012 at 06:05 AM.
10-11-2012 at 06:05 AM.
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Yes, it is.
No, it isn't. And only a fool would legitimately think that.

Let's say a household spends on typical things for years and years. Rent/mortgage. Utilities. Groceries. Car payment. Insurance. New clothing every couple of years. Cable TV. Internet. A week's vacation every year. And a ppv movie every month. And the budget is perfectly balanced. But one year, mommy becomes a crack addict. She spends all the money on crack. Should Daddy wake up one morning and decide to cut out the ppv movie? Would it even make a difference? I'm not even saying he shouldn't. But should he even mention or target it? You can't farking pay your RENT. You're short thousands of dollars. What the hell is the point of bringing up the $4 movie? This isn't about whether it should or shouldn't be cut, the point is that it's irrelevant. It's a smoke screen. It has nothing to do with the problem. Even bringing it up is a distraction from the central point. If you asked that father what his plan was to bring spending under control, and he brought up the less than $50 a year he spent on PPV, the typical person would think him a fool. YOUR WIFE IS A CRACK ADDICT! But Mitt Romney does this on a much larger scale and half the country applauds. And in the process, he declares "And I'll make sure my wife buys MORE crack, not less!" Are they really that stupid?
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10-11-2012 at 07:13 AM.
10-11-2012 at 07:13 AM.
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Big Bird is richer than Mitt Romney. True story.
The fictional character, or the guy in the suit? Scratchhead
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10-11-2012 at 10:09 AM.
10-11-2012 at 10:09 AM.
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No, it isn't. And only a fool would legitimately think that.
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And a ppv movie every month. And the budget is perfectly balanced. But one year, mommy becomes a crack addict. She spends all the money on crack. Should Daddy wake up one morning and decide to cut out the ppv movie? Would it even make a difference? I'm not even saying he shouldn't. But should he even mention or target it? You can't farking pay your RENT. You're short thousands of dollars. What the hell is the point of bringing up the $4 movie? This isn't about whether it should or shouldn't be cut, the point is that it's irrelevant. It's a smoke screen. It has nothing to do with the problem.
Only a fool would think about how to balance a budget and then say it's not about whether things that cost money and are unnecessary should or shouldn't be cut. Especially when "I'm not even saying he shouldn't" cut those unnecessary things that cost money.

When you're $16 trillion dollars in debt and hemorrhaging $1+ trillion dollars a year, everything should be on the table. Things like PBS ARE part of the problem and give people the mindset of oh, it's not that much, so all of the countless other things that don't cost that much by themselves must be ok too. Is PBS a big part of the problem? No. But it's still part of the problem.

I agree it's a good smokescreen, but it's a smokescreen more for Obama and Obama supporters. Romney hasn't made a huge deal about defunding Big Bird. He mentioned it as one thing to defund if it fails the "should we borrow money from China for this" test. How is Obama going to balance the budget, or even "cut the deficit in half his first four years"? (still has one month left to pull something out.) He's not is how. How about the rest of his record and lack of future plans that he doesn't want to talk about? Big Bird gives him and his supporters cover to argue about Big Bird instead of things that aren't "irrelevant."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/the...2/1622067/
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Said Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg: "Four years ago, President Obama said that if you don't have a record to run on, 'you make a big election about small things.' With 23 million people struggling for work, incomes falling, and gas prices soaring, Americans deserve more from their president."

Romney himself address the issue in Iowa, said: "You have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving Big Bird."

The Republican National Committee responded by releasing a graphic featuring another Sesame Street character, the vampire The Count.

It's designed to show "President Obama's complete lack of positive message or vision coming out of last Wednesday's debate," the RNC said. "After failing to lay out a plan for his second term -- let alone defend his first term -- in last week's debate, all the president has been talking about recently to distract from his poor performance is Big Bird and Elmo."
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10-11-2012 at 10:23 AM.
10-11-2012 at 10:23 AM.
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The fictional character, or the guy in the suit? Scratchhead
laugh out loud

Wait, you were talking about Romney right? The Candidate or the Business Man?
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10-11-2012 at 10:27 AM.
10-11-2012 at 10:27 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
No, it isn't. And only a fool would legitimately think that.

Let's say a household spends on typical things for years and years. Rent/mortgage. Utilities. Groceries. Car payment. Insurance. New clothing every couple of years. Cable TV. Internet. A week's vacation every year. And a ppv movie every month. And the budget is perfectly balanced. But one year, mommy becomes a crack addict. She spends all the money on crack. Should Daddy wake up one morning and decide to cut out the ppv movie? Would it even make a difference? I'm not even saying he shouldn't. But should he even mention or target it? You can't farking pay your RENT. You're short thousands of dollars. What the hell is the point of bringing up the $4 movie? This isn't about whether it should or shouldn't be cut, the point is that it's irrelevant. It's a smoke screen. It has nothing to do with the problem. Even bringing it up is a distraction from the central point. If you asked that father what his plan was to bring spending under control, and he brought up the less than $50 a year he spent on PPV, the typical person would think him a fool. YOUR WIFE IS A CRACK ADDICT! But Mitt Romney does this on a much larger scale and half the country applauds. And in the process, he declares "And I'll make sure my wife buys MORE crack, not less!" Are they really that stupid?
It is a part of the problem because it is an expenditure that is not supposed to be a part of the federal government's function. It has nothing to do with whether or not PBS is a good thing or a bad thing.
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10-11-2012 at 11:02 AM.
10-11-2012 at 11:02 AM.
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It is a part of the problem because it is an expenditure that is not supposed to be a part of the federal government's function. It has nothing to do with whether or not PBS is a good thing or a bad thing.
That's your opinion. You don't get to personally decide what is and isn't the government's "function". I can argue that it isn't the government's function to decide who can and can't get married, but it doesn't stop people from proposing banning gay marriage, does it? We have every right to invest in things to promote the general welfare, which funding an educational public television network certainly does.
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10-11-2012 at 02:35 PM.
10-11-2012 at 02:35 PM.
Quote from shhaggy :
That's your opinion. You don't get to personally decide what is and isn't the government's "function". I can argue that it isn't the government's function to decide who can and can't get married, but it doesn't stop people from proposing banning gay marriage, does it? We have every right to invest in things to promote the general welfare, which funding an educational public television network certainly does.
You are correct. You and I cannot personally decide what is and isn't the government's function. Thankfully it is spelled out very clearly in the Constitution as to what is the responsibility of the Federal Government. And if a power is not expressly given to the Federal Government in the Constitution then it falls to the states. And Big Bird isn't one of the enumerated powers given to the Federal Government.
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10-11-2012 at 02:59 PM.
10-11-2012 at 02:59 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
You are correct. You and I cannot personally decide what is and isn't the government's function. Thankfully it is spelled out very clearly in the Constitution as to what is the responsibility of the Federal Government. And if a power is not expressly given to the Federal Government in the Constitution then it falls to the states. And Big Bird isn't one of the enumerated powers given to the Federal Government.
Yeah because everything the federal government does is laid out in the constitution. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

The constitution argument is silly. Did the constitution give the federal government the responsibility to create NASA and to explore space? No but the federal government did it anyway.
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