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Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51816124 added 07-20-2012 1:31 PM by IvoryCadenza in Archived Deals
"Sexy" green technology like solar/wind usually doesn't have a very good ROI for the individual consumer. If you want to go green, plant a tree in front of your window to save money on cooling costs...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51627942 added 07-13-2012 6:48 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
+1 to johnfoe. I was being serious, not trying to start a fight. Solar is 100% dependent on where you live. There ARE places on this planet where solar is cost effective and WILL result in a real...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51622510 added 07-12-2012 10:15 PM by johnfoe in Archived Deals
Solar energy and Wind energy will never pay for itself where I live (Indiana). Not enough sun for solar and in order to get stable wind power it has to be too high. I am for green energy, but I'm...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51689298 added 07-16-2012 3:55 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
Don't misunderstand me. I still say an ROI on Solar is a myth. You still haven't shown me any numbers where it has an ROI. And I still maintain that 99% of locations will never see an ROI. I concede...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51611220 added 07-12-2012 1:16 PM by dealgate in Archived Deals
ok... run the numbers and let's see what you get. Do a 5, 10, 15 and 20 year ROI and we'll see if it is possible.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51403916 added 07-03-2012 8:58 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
Solar panels do not create enough electricity to run a home central A/C unit. Period. Solar panels are good for lighting and other low draw devices. They do not have enough amps to power something...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51507444 added 07-08-2012 9:45 AM by boltman2007 in Archived Deals
What really sucks is that we have no air conditioning by choice...LOW-e windows/ fans instead, Hi efficiency LG washer and dryers, Energy star appliances, and our electric bill is still usually...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51522934 added 07-09-2012 7:13 AM by dcrob in Archived Deals
Not necessarily true. I know the tax credits and rebates may not be what they were here just a couple years ago, but we had a solar system installed about 2.5 years ago here in NJ. A 7 KW system...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51393342 added 07-02-2012 8:07 PM by BigBobSaget in Archived Deals
I was mainly just checking out solar panels since I rent, my electric bill isnt bad (around 60-100 dollars a month. I hover from 500 KWH to 800 in the hottest of summer). Im a single guy and the...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51394560 added 07-02-2012 9:15 PM by sushigaiden in Archived Deals
Okay, this may sound like a silly question but how many panels will it take to run a stand alone ac unit?
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51403158 added 07-03-2012 8:32 AM by LiquidRetro in Archived Deals
Totally depends on the size and efficiency of the unit and what it pulls at startup (more than when running). You location, angle to the sun, season, how dirty the panels are and more matter. So...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53114260 added 09-10-2012 5:39 PM by 8mpg in Archived Deals
You guys are getting raped on electricity costs...but if you live in Socal, you get raped on everything and have bankrupt governments giving tax credits. Texas electricity costs are $.09-.10/Kw
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53125832 added 09-11-2012 7:06 AM by johnfoe in Archived Deals
We don't HATE solar power, it just doesn't make sense for most of us. For me to run off 100% solar power *most* of the time it will cost me $101,000. This is extremely in the best case scenario....
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53103682 added 09-10-2012 9:17 AM by freeguy007 in Archived Deals
I felt that way too, but a friend put a similar sized system on his roof in 2009 & his average bill is about $35 (down from about $225). What are you basing your claims on? I went into this thinking...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53098488 added 09-10-2012 3:58 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
No way, no how, no where, no chance, none , nada, zilch, end of story. 20% tops. $33/month for you. A fool and their money are soon parted. Anyone that buys a solar array is a fool and they will part...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53100144 added 09-10-2012 6:24 AM by zzyzzx in Archived Deals
In a lot of cases you would be much better off taking the money that you would have spent on solar panels and investing in a dividend paying utility stock. Even after taxes, the money you will be...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53111122 added 09-10-2012 2:39 PM by LivninSC in Archived Deals
Seriously. I don't get the whole hate solar crowd. I don't know if this guy is using old figured but these days solar is notably cheaper than it was 5 years ago. Sure there are costs with solar...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51702962 added 07-16-2012 2:34 PM by IvoryCadenza in Archived Deals
Here is a great way to save money on cooling costs. We struggled with this in our apartment and I am trying it out now. ...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51728112 added 07-17-2012 12:28 PM by IvoryCadenza in Archived Deals
The windows are both a blessing and a cuse here in the Midwest. The natural light/heat is great during the fall/spring/winter. Not so much durring the summer though. :cool:
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51406616 added 07-03-2012 10:44 AM by LivninSC in Archived Deals
Given that info there is no way you could financially justify any investment in solar or wind. 800kwh is only $100! F me, I want your utility rates!
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51410678 added 07-03-2012 1:32 PM by LivninSC in Archived Deals
700kwH bill for $138 Generation is 8 cents per kWh however delivery fluctuates the total cost greatly. Low end generation + delivery is 14cents while upper tiers are 26/28 cents. A lot of...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51408632 added 07-03-2012 12:10 PM by nav001 in Archived Deals
Because you rent, I wouldn't do either. It will be a headache getting all the approvals, and I'm not sure you would get all the tax credits since you don't own the house (someone smarter might be...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51770066 added 07-18-2012 9:31 PM by 8mpg in Archived Deals
Im with you...even here in Texas, the ROI on solar panels is crap. The fact it will take 20 years to pay off, the up front costs are enormous. That $20k would have been better off paying down the...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53084052 added 09-09-2012 10:22 AM by freeguy007 in Archived Deals
I'm looking at solar in CT where I pay 19 cents/kw. The solar array will cost me (after state and federal incentives) between $11-$13k depending on how I can do the fed tax credit. My monthly...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53111486 added 09-10-2012 2:59 PM by LivninSC in Archived Deals
Seriously. Panels around this wattage and quality were running $1k when I looked at it. Now, $612! 16 panels X $400 savings = $6,400 cheaper in only a couple of years, and just for the panel! ...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53132092 added 09-11-2012 11:48 AM by LivninSC in Archived Deals
Is that flat rate costs? Do you not have tiers? I for example get 300 kw at about 10-12 cents and then it jumps up to 22-24 cents for another 300 kw and then the next tier is 33 cents or higher. ...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #53147856 added 09-11-2012 11:22 PM by 8mpg in Archived Deals
Flat rates here in TX. I have known some people to be at $.075-.80 range with some longer term commitments. This is what happens when you have good production and your state government is not a Nazi...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51496466 added 07-07-2012 4:24 PM by BlueOvalStangGT in Archived Deals
Not sure if this is the only factor that has affected my bill but ever since I put in one of these, my bill has dropped 20-40%
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51392882 added 07-02-2012 7:43 PM by larrymoencurly in Archived Deals
The lifespan for solar panels is under 20 years, and output decreases every year, maybe down to half after 20 years. The lifespan for lead-acid batteries is much worse, typically 2-4 years. The...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51618546 added 07-12-2012 6:30 PM by travathian in Archived Deals
YOU are the one making the unsubstantiated claim, with out running the numbers, YOU do the math. I really have better things to do. And don't make me laugh by pulling some bullcrap numbers out of...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51392766 added 07-02-2012 7:37 PM by weliamtemp in Archived Deals
You need to get data for an analysis. Keep in mind, both solar and wind installation gives you 30% tax credit.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51392100 added 07-02-2012 7:03 PM by BigBobSaget in Archived Deals
Hey guys, I was wondering if any of these electric generating devices can be purchased for cheap and function long enough to recoup their purchase price (Low maintenance ). I live in Southern...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51684462 added 07-15-2012 8:14 PM by saladdin in Archived Deals
Non of thsi means anything unless you posts your cost per kwh. Mine is $0.09 in Tennessee. No way I'd be willing to take the ROI chance at that price. Especially when you factor in any repair to the...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51689544 added 07-16-2012 4:30 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
+100 I wouldn't pay a nickel extra for a solar system. If it was there, that's great the best I could do is not charge more to have to maintain it. Geo-thermal is probably the best thing right...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51720926 added 07-17-2012 8:42 AM by saladdin in Archived Deals
Word. I use the old mylar "emergency" foil sheets. I prefer the dark any way and this dropped my internal "natural" temp a lot.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51728252 added 07-17-2012 12:32 PM by kyotuosa in Archived Deals
Since it's outside it'll need repair or replacement.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51727718 added 07-17-2012 12:17 PM by zzyzzx in Archived Deals
Or just next time you look for a place to live , try to find one that doesn't have too many windows.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51686842 added 07-15-2012 10:42 PM by travathian in Archived Deals
Then next time say that, instead of this: Because that is horseshit. Cali has very high costs for electricity, and Southern Cal, Nev, Ariz all get buttloads of usable sunlight. And at least in...
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51524960 added 07-09-2012 8:49 AM by travathian in Archived Deals
False. There are far too many variables to make such a statement. Never mind that solar panel efficiency continues to improve, and the cost of electricity will likely never go down in our lifetime.
Solar Panel(s) Wind Turbine(s) which is best for electric savings? (If any)
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Thread created 07-02-2012 by BigBobSaget
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Post #51504230 added 07-08-2012 5:33 AM by dealgate in Archived Deals
Also many power companies will credit you on your next bill the cost of the programmable thermostat if you buy one. Check with them.
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