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dhc014,
Where did you purchase the motherboard with the Intel GPU? I have a XPS 1530.
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What have i got to loose. The laptop is already dead, what else can go wrong. RockySosua can you give me instructions on how to do this? I would appreciate it.
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This is how I did it the first time, to the best of my recollection.
A fellow came by with an HP DV series laptop with the infamous nvidia graphics that were known to have this problem.
We looked...
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Yes, when the charger is plugged in the blue charging indicator does come on. I will try the battery trick you mentioned.
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I just acquired a HP DV6451 but it has some problems. When I press power I can hear the fans running and the DVD drive spin up but about 10 seconds later it does a short electronic chirp and shuts...
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My objections are primarily temperature related and I feel like I've already covered them, but I'll try to outline them again one last time.
1. Semiconductors can tolerate higher temperatures when...
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WOW, what if the bad solder joint is somewhere else on the board?
I guess at this point you're really at a last ditch effort anyway, but I cringed at "letting the GPU overheat until it flows"
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My guess its heating issue (GPU), my compaq f500 did same thing.
YT of f500 trying to boot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5afS7KORm_Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=82s
Google search the model...
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When I do it, I don't use hot air or an oven. I remove the heatsink plate from the GPU and turn the laptop on, letting the GPU overheat until it flows.
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Are you referring to just taking both sticks of memory out and re-inserting them.
Reflowed is a term i am not familar with. What is that?
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Try an external monitor see if it does anything and try to boot from a cd/dvd/usb stick with something like ubcd or hirens.
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Yep, the Compaq f500 that I have also has Nvidia GeForce Go 6150
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Holly crap, I didn't think my question was going to cause so much discussion. You guys do this often?
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In the middle of College Football games so can't address the other stuff, but do want to say that I am definitely not angry.
It's rare that I would get that way and it would be evident.
The IQ...
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There are times when complicated jobs, just won't get done. This nvidia chip task is big enough as it is, without further complicating it with the need for specialty equipment.
We may disagree on...
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People who have these problematic laptops don't have reflow ovens, and they are using house ovens to do the job.
I find my way of only heating the afflicted area, mush safer than sticking the whole...
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I understand your desire to do things right and to pass good info onto others, but you've missed an element, in the judgement of my method being risky.
Let's put it this way.
How did the solder...
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These are known nVidia chip problems.
There is no solder joint elsewhere to deal with the problem.
It is located in one specific place and this is a proven method and vastly superior to sticking an...
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No go on the battery trick.
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You can find youtube videos on how to do it.
Basically, you're heating the GPU enough to make the solder flow, just a bit, just enough for it to reconnect and work for another while.
I should...
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It would be easy to know. If the fan is working, it's not going to be a heating issue, and if it isn't working, then you hit the nail on the head.
It's been my experience that it would take more...
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It has a NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA). Specs
I was given a dead Dell XPS 1330 which was notorious for having the poorly soldered nVidia graphics, but the one I got actually only had integrated...
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I have an older HP laptop that exhibits similar behavior. However, it will eventually boot up and run fine for hours. I suspect a motherboard issue on mine. Not worth what it would cost to fix.
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It's rare that a hard drive shorts out a laptop in that way. Normally, it would just not turn on, but the fact that it reboots after that 10 second period, insinuates something else.
Some of the old...
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I'm willing to bet it has a nVidia 8600/8800 M GPU that overheated and needs to be reflowed. It's a known issue with Dells, HPs, Sonys, Toshibas..etc that had nVidia 8600/8800 GPUs.
You can either...
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Ebay.
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Sounds good, and how could an IQ challenged grade school dropout like myself, refute any of any of that, but if that info is accurate and applicable, how can one explain me being successful every...
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I honestly can't tell if you're being angry and truthful or passive aggressive and sarcastic here. :dontknow:
I'm sorry if you took anything I said as a personal attack, it wasn't. :hug:
If you...
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If you aren't in the Caribbean and have access to other tools, you'll be better off buying a cheap hot air gun like i linked to earlier. With this one you'd probably be using one of the two lowest...
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And that is precisely the problem with your approach I was getting at. With more reliable, controlled approaches the end product should be more consistent. I realize most people don't have access...
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Try re-seating the memory.
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yes, you should also try them one at a time in each slot.
Reflow refers to a soldering process. In this case it would require a reflow oven, hot air rework station, or bga station. People...
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It's absurd to claim that over heating a component is more reliable than other PROVEN soldering methods (read: tested and analyzed in laboratory setting forming the basis of IPC standards). A reflow...
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Tried taking the memory out and inserting them one at a time, I even tried each slot in turn. Same results.
A little more detail I am noticing, when first powered on the fan comes on at full or...
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The fan comportment is fairly normal, and the fact that the fan works, tells you that it isn't shutting down from overheating.
Booting from a disc will make no difference, as the computer can't even...
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I'll say it one last time, try hooking up an external monitor. It may display something useful before it shuts down. See Flowchart 2.6 here on page 2-22 here:...
