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I have taken a look at the charts over the last few years...taking into account dividend increases, and stock price increases ( except for 2008 )...your WAY ahead buying dividend stocks.
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What are these stocks MO, VOD, T?
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OAKBX load/ fee %?
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Enjoy investing discussions - some comments if you don't mind:
Exactly. Depends on the circumstances. There's a reason some investments pay more - risk correlates with return.
You can...
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A friend of a friend has been placing much of his assets in a safe place where not even the IRS knows that he has it.:nod:
He may not gain any interest (or lose it), but at least they cannot get...
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Silver or gold, bought on craigslist at a good price is about the only way I want to invest my money nowadays.
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http://www.daveramsey.com/index.cfm?event=askdave/&intContentItemId=10457
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Bad deal, government should have to raise the rate to 7-15% to get buyers.
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You know there is actually a forum designed for this type of discussion. Hint: It is not the hot deals forum.
https://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45
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Well those people aren't me. Check the massive SD archive. I am most upfront about ownership in the stocks I've lost money on. Big among them, HPQ and AMD. I've also been exposing the joys of NLY...
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really? Thanks, I'll have to log in and see if I can get that.
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Do you have a link that supports this? The link for the I bond says that it is indeed taxed.
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You mean past performance doesn't guarantee future success? That's exactly what Oakmark says about it's own funds.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."
They say it quite...
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Well, if you invested in most mutual funds 12 years ago or so you haven't gained anything either.
Again, his point is not necessarily to gain......it is to maintain what you have WITHOUT the IRS...
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"Scary liberals are running up the debt. ZOMG"
"Let me show you how to skirt personal responsibility and unload that debt on to the public."
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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Agreed. QE3 isn't ending tomorrow. It may end at the end of the year but there's a wrinkle in that. The Fed recently linked their policies to unemployment. They have never done that before. So...
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Doh!!!
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derp.
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The Fed said they'll end QE if either unemployment hits 6.5% or inflation hits 2.5%, so it's tied to both.
There's a serious risk of inflation with all this printing - so i-bonds could become...
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thanks. I want to close my HSBC one. Its come down to 0.30 %
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everyone should have some money in stocks and bonds.just how much of ur savings should be in each is up to u depending on where u r in ur life. if ur closer to 65 u may not want to take a risk in the...
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Yeah, I know.... but with interest rates this low, what income are you talking about? You are not even beating inflation for crying out loud. And you are talking about the Asian financial crisis, a...
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:confused: Really? how does this "friend" have any money left after stockpiling and hoarding ammunition and firearms this last month?
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As I said, from the horse's mouth. The horse in this case being Oakmark.
http://www.oakmark.com/funds/family/ff_p.asp
Of course, I'm making the assumption that the people running a fund know...
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Yeah, like NLY has been real risky. :nono2: And it has triple the 5 year yield as the one you offered. I guess some people are more comfortable with keeping their money under their mattress. ...
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Right, as if it's just about what you get in dividends. :rolleyes:
Have you considered the market value risk you're putting yourself into compared to a gov't backed bond? Take a look at those...
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Any body thinks about this one
CPS Renewable Notes
Even there is no insurance on it but it it is pretty stable based on my last few years experience.
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not sure what planet you live on, but 5 yr is not "long run"
long run = 20+ yrs
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Wrong again. MO spin-off PM 5 years ago. That's why the stock price is down. Add MO and PM to obtain the true value of MO today.
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Complains about "liberal debt" including Obamacare/singlepayer that would take care of what you describe. :lol: This keeps getting better.
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Yea I owned a stock where they spun off a company (COP, PSX). If you didn't know it and just looked at the charts, you'd think COP just suddenly dove in value overnight. Spinoffs aren't like a stock...
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between 1940s until now.
avg is 7%~
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What good is a 5% dividend (about 3% after taxes) over a period of a few years if the stock goes down a few dollars a share?
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Are you comparing a single risky stock to Oakmark's broad portfolio of 60% bonds and 40% in thirty or so stocks?
OAKBX has returned 10% a year for 17 years, are you saying NLY has returned 40% a...
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Risky? When has NLY ever failed to pay a yield? You have shown that Oakmark does.
As you said, "No one cares" what OAKBX has done in the past, only what it's going to do in the future. In the...
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Yes we are. Take it from the pros on the "lost decade", quickly approaching the "lost decades". The Japanese warned us not to lift off the gas too soon. They did and they became lost.
The...
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Why do any of these when you can invest in emerging market bonds? Just as an example, Fidelity new Market Income Fund (FNMIX) gave annual average yields of 12.66% over the last 10 years!
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Right now type I bonds pay 1.76%, can be cashed in after a year with a 3/month interest penalty, and cashed in after 5 years with no penalty.
The rate is unlikely to go down much, it is...
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Why do Bond when you can do 1% saving
https://www.banking.barclaysus.com/index.html
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The stated rate of inflation is unbelievably incorrect. Ever ask your self why the Federal Reserve Inc. no longer posts the M3?
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