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270 199 September 21, 2017 at 09:01 PM
We are building a new home in Arkansas, two-storied and about 3,600 sqft.

I am seeking ideas with respect to making our home "smart" save money and add value. I highly appreciate any suggestions or ideas. Regarding "smart" home, is a WiFi thermostat enough or would a Nest Thermostat worth the extra money.

Our electricity rates are in the lower spectrum and we are not too obsessed with making the home too energy efficient.

I read some articles that state attic fans are actually bad. Any personal experiences?

Are there any resources geared towards to new home constructions. Most of the resources I find are either too specific or too general.

Thanks in advance.
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tennisplayer888
09-21-2017 at 10:27 PM.
09-21-2017 at 10:27 PM.
Get good insulation for the home helps to save a lot, it may seem expensive now but helps a lot in the long run. As far as thermostat, theyre all gimics imo. If you do want one though, just makes sure it is wifi. Being able to control your home temperature from your phone is pretty cool.

I just purchased a new construction home with my family a couple months ago. It depends on the builder really (well being in CA you get the basic lot with a home one it, not as much open space compared to maybe how you will be building) and the crew that works on your home. Make sure everything is secured pretty much, nails into trussels etc..
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VorlonFrog
09-22-2017 at 12:22 AM.
09-22-2017 at 12:22 AM.
Ecobee 4 is a better thermostat than Nest, because it has remote room temperature sensors and averages the temp among several locations. Regarding "future-proofing" rather than home automation, insure you have a minimum of two (if not more) Cat-6 network cable drops/outlets in every room. Include the kitchen, dining room, and closets, as well. This will allow you to put wireless access points wherever they are necessary. Consider automated door locks (like Schlage Sense or Schlage Connect), garage door openers (Chamberlain MyQ or Genie Aladdin) and security IP cameras, as well.
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SnakePlisken
09-22-2017 at 06:09 AM.
09-22-2017 at 06:09 AM.
Quote from VorlonFrog :
Ecobee 4 is a better thermostat than Nest, because it has remote room temperature sensors and averages the temp among several locations. Regarding "future-proofing" rather than home automation, insure you have a minimum of two (if not more) Cat-6 network cable drops/outlets in every room. Include the kitchen, dining room, and closets, as well. This will allow you to put wireless access points wherever they are necessary. Consider automated door locks (like Schlage Sense or Schlage Connect), garage door openers (Chamberlain MyQ or Genie Aladdin) and security IP cameras, as well.
Iagree

ecobee > all the rest
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09-22-2017 at 08:04 AM.
09-22-2017 at 08:04 AM.
Quote from koger :
We are building a new home in Arkansas, two-storied and about 3,600 sqft.

I am seeking ideas with respect to making our home "smart" save money and add value. I highly appreciate any suggestions or ideas. Regarding "smart" home, is a WiFi thermostat enough or would a Nest Thermostat worth the extra money.

Our electricity rates are in the lower spectrum and we are not too obsessed with making the home too energy efficient.

I read some articles that state attic fans are actually bad. Any personal experiences?

Are there any resources geared towards to new home constructions. Most of the resources I find are either too specific or too general.

Thanks in advance.
So electricity is cheap..that's great when it's actually on.

It's the dead of winter and someone slams a pole or such...now you don't have your cheap power and your house gets cold because you didn't insulate it.
No biggy for a day...but what if a major storm rolls through and you are out of power for a week...?

Don't plan on things being best case and all is happy...what and how will your house handle worst case days? It's your protection for you and your family.

I'd have them apply closed cell insulation if it's not too late. It performs way better than traditional batting.

Attic fans are fine. They remove moisture and heat from the attic. If you have snow on your roof, you don't want a hot attic as this causes ice damn to form on your roof and then that causes leaks into your house. So having insulation above your ceiling protects you from warming your attic space as well as summer heat warming your upstairs rooms.

wifi and data cabling have been covered by others.
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pansyrhonda
09-22-2017 at 11:09 AM.
09-22-2017 at 11:09 AM.
"smart" idea- build a smaller home for heating and cooling purposes.
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komondor
09-22-2017 at 07:00 PM.
09-22-2017 at 07:00 PM.
You should have 2 AC units one for each floor.
Do you have a sprinkler system a smart one of those i have a Rachio is really nice since you have infinite control over each zone.

I would run tubing to each room vs running cat5 or coax or fiber, with pull strings back to a central point in the basement.
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Do you have a tornado room? I would have one built with a L shaped vestibule so that the wind and objects cannot hit the door straight on.

Go for a concrete tile or steel roof so that it will last the life of the house.

make sure you have good drainage

Put cable runs ans power on each corner of the house for security cameras.

Put external duplex outlet boxes under the eaves in case you or someone want to run holiday lights or you need power for tools.

Put in an electrostatic filter for the furnaces

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Ms.arteest
09-23-2017 at 08:23 PM.
09-23-2017 at 08:23 PM.
Don't know if these qualify as being part of a "smart build", but just my two cents. As a decorator, I'm around a lot of new construction. Sorry, this is kind of long.

Not sure in what part of Arkansas you're building, but spray foam insulation in your attic is a smart decision for several reasons. Of course it's really efficient, but second, you can store things that would normally be damaged, over time, by heat. It's taking longer for this to catch on as you move further north, but it's with the extra money, IMHO. It also adds a bit more stability to your roof. A metal roof is also sturdier and longer lasting than shingles. We changed to one about ten years ago and it still looks like the day we put it on.

Heated floors are a big savings on hearing bills. Just because you have low energy bills now, doesn't mean you always will. Studies have shown that if your floors are warm, you can actually keep your home cooler. A Generac generator is a given if you're going to be in a very rural area where snow and ice may cause power outages. At the very least, plan for alternate ways to heat and cook (fireplace, gas stove, etc.).

My mom is from Arkansas and I have family all over the state. Again, not sure of the topography of your area, but with the crazy weather we've been having, double check for things like flood zones (check with your gravity drainage board), foundation requirements or upgrades, as there have been more frequent earthquakes in the middle of the nation, and tornado shelters, especially ones accessible from inside the home. My folks have property in Mena and have always thought that they were safe from tornados because of the side of the mountain they're on. Several years ago tornado ripped Mena apart.

Have your electrician run an extra access conduit from your breaker box, with a string in it, to pull wit as, so that if you want to run additional power at a later date, it's an easy thing. Also, if you don't have a standby generator, have your house wired to plug in a freestanding one, with plugs for your fridge, freezer and a portable AC or heater. The plugs are normally orange or red, so that you know they're dedicated to a generator. A 50 amp outlet, outside, is great to have if you ever expect to have company with an RV.

One last thing, from the decorator in me - think about outlets, if you plan to decorate for Christmas. Soffits, above cabinets, yard -all places that you would want to put lights. Make sure to think about switches for those plugs, if you don't want to use timers. A client of mine just requested a switch for the plug where she plans to put her Christmas tree. No more bending down to plug in lights!



BIG THING - go through the house after its wired and plumbed, but before it's insulated and take pics of the walls so that you know where everything is when you want to hang things.
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09-24-2017 at 04:27 AM.
09-24-2017 at 04:27 AM.
Have a high and low vent in each room for hvac. This promotes better circulation. Have lots of return air not just the couple the builder will put it. You can never have enough return air!

Make sure your HVAC system ductwork is sized properly for your house. This is rarely done. Properly means your square footage along with any future square footage like finishing the basement one day is calculated into the plan and the proper sized main ducts are installed. You really can't do this at a later time and so many homes are not sized properly. Once this is done, your HVAC unit should be sized to whatever you came up with in your calculations for moving air. I also would installed a separate unit for your top level. Again, properly sized.

Make sure the flooring in your kitchen is installed before the cabinets. This ensures it goes under the cabinets and all the way to the walls.

Cable and network outlets anywhere you might want a tv.
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Beartrkkr
09-24-2017 at 05:43 PM.
09-24-2017 at 05:43 PM.
Run Ethernet cable to all corners of and doors of the home for a home security system while still in the framing stage (or anywhere you'd want a camera). A PoE system gets power through the Ethernet cable so no extra power outlets are required. You could run it to a central location to store the network recorder where it's not easily found (taken by a burglar).
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Ms.arteest
09-27-2017 at 12:37 AM.
09-27-2017 at 12:37 AM.
Oh, if you've not considered a central vac, you should look into them. Way less dust in the air because the collection tank isn't inside the house
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09-27-2017 at 06:15 AM.
09-27-2017 at 06:15 AM.
We just put a land hold down for new construction too Whee
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tukwok
09-27-2017 at 11:03 AM.
09-27-2017 at 11:03 AM.
Add a whole-house fan [greenbuildingadvisor.com].

Quote from Ms.arteest :
Oh, if you've not considered a central vac, you should look into them. Way less dust in the air because the collection tank isn't inside the house
We have one and don't relish or bother with the hassle of taking out and assembling the super long hose (35-ft?) and attachments. Then there's the maneuvering around furniture more carefully than with a power cord from a vacuum. Suction is a joke. Just buy and use a good HEPA filter vacuum.
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PghBunch
09-27-2017 at 01:48 PM.
09-27-2017 at 01:48 PM.
There's an attic fan for $40 or so that I posted a few months ago that is still available. It has cut our electricity bill down significantly although I have heard that there are better options also. You may also want to invest in good windows and the attic insulation.

As far as other "smart" products go, sign up with Centercode. They're always doing studies for Nest products and it and the installation will be free.
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09-28-2017 at 08:42 AM.
09-28-2017 at 08:42 AM.
Quote from koger :
Our electricity rates are in the lower spectrum and we are not too obsessed with making the home too energy efficient.
That type of thing can change. I would plan on making it as efficient as I could with thicker outside walls so more insulation can be added.
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