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PSA: Newegg Sharing HISTORICAL Customer Purchase Histories with Foreign State Tax Collectors

178 22 February 17, 2018 at 08:30 AM in Computers (5) Get Newegg coupons
I live in Connecticut and have been shopping online with Newegg since at least 2004 (and I believe a lot earlier than that). I learned the other day that Newegg voluntarily gave the State of CT its customer purchase history files without any legal mandate such as a warrant, subpoena, or court order. This has allowed CT to impose retroactive "use taxes" that circumvent the Supreme Court's holding in Quill. I knew that the politicians and bureaucrats in Hartford (the capital) are a bunch of blood sucking leeches, but I never expected Newegg to voluntarily share its customers' purchase data with them particularly in the absence of an enforceable criterium (i.e., physical presence within the state). The taxes I expect because insatiable blood-sucking parasites like politicians and bureaucrats don't care if they kill the host ... but when Newegg betrays its long term customers, that's another issue. I know some Marxists are going to criticize me for complaining about taxes, but if you can ignore your propaganda filled public school educations (and yes, I went to public school) and actually READ what I'm writing here, you'll see that I'm concerned about a business entity with established relationships betraying its customer base, not about taxes per se.

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Deusxmachina
02-20-2018 at 09:18 AM.
02-20-2018 at 09:18 AM.
Quote from xxxHolic :
is this state sale tax right? this tax money won't go to federal?
If it's state tax, state tax in part makes up for federal tax which the federal government purposely confiscates too much of so that after part of it is wasted going through the federal red tape to feed Washington the rest can be used to coerce states by holding the money hostage if the states don't do what the feds want, such as feds refusing to give states highway money if the states don't raise the drinking age, etc. The feds bribe states with the states' own money.
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02-20-2018 at 09:26 AM.
02-20-2018 at 09:26 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
I'm all for limiting the amount of money any government can collect but the reality of this is if you cheat on your taxes and get caught you are going to suffer. Suck it up and pay what you owe.

You always owed these taxes and were supposed to be paying them and now you got caught. If you don't like the taxes in your state either move or quit voting for the big government/big spenders in either party.
Hey, someone who actually understands the basics of use tax.

I have an accountant friend where I used to live who has tracked his online purchases for years and correctly paid the required use taxes on them. Anyone whose state is closing that loophole should just be happy they've managed to cheat on their taxes for this long. I live in a state without sales tax, so I don't have to worry about it.

Back to the actual original topic: it is pretty bad that Newegg supplied that information without a warrant or other legally forceful measures. I also wonder if it will be a net gain for the state, considering all the research that will have to be done. I know I made purchases there going back to the late 1990s, but good luck finding me based on shipping/billing information I used back then, much less enforcing it in a state where I no longer live.
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02-20-2018 at 09:56 AM.
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Are you saying my cousin/wife is a slut?
No, I insinuated that she might be your sister. You, sir, used the term slut. You have a better understanding of her sexual proclivities... Evil Well, and maybe your brother...laugh out loud
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02-20-2018 at 11:05 AM.
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No, I insinuated that she might be your sister. You, sir, used the term slut. You have a better understanding of her sexual proclivities... Evil Well, and maybe your brother...laugh out loud

My sister dumped me Sadwalk
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02-20-2018 at 08:43 PM.
02-20-2018 at 08:43 PM.
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My sister dumped me Sadwalk
Comfort damn. I hate when that happens. Tell her you're pregnant and see if she comes back...
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02-21-2018 at 08:07 AM.
02-21-2018 at 08:07 AM.
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Comfort damn. I hate when that happens. Tell her you're pregnant and see if she comes back...
Tried that, she said I am just fat.
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Ms.arteest
02-21-2018 at 09:50 AM.
02-21-2018 at 09:50 AM.
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Tried that, she said I am just fat.
That bitch! Keep putting the testosterone in her Black Velvet. Let her try to get of THAT mustache! laugh out loud
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02-21-2018 at 02:38 PM.
02-21-2018 at 02:38 PM.
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My sister dumped me Sadwalk
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Comfort damn. I hate when that happens. Tell her you're pregnant and see if she comes back...
He said he got dumped; he didn't say she left.
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Mr.Chinito
02-23-2018 at 05:22 PM.
02-23-2018 at 05:22 PM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
It's nice when these companies collect the sales tax for you instead of having to go through the hassle of calculating it and paying directly to the state later on.
I never knew we had to pay the sales tax back. I thought if we make purchases and there was no tax, i thought that was the end of it. Even if the company/warehouse is not in OUR shipping address state.

There are so many companies that don't collect sales tax on customer who does not live in the state.
For example, ADORAMA, B&H, BUYDIG, BEACHCAMERA, I think AMAZON for some states but I'm not sure.

What about people who live in Delaware? Where there are so sales tax whatsoever? So they have to pay sales tax to CT even though they get NO benefit from the state?
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Iaaaiws
02-23-2018 at 06:44 PM.
02-23-2018 at 06:44 PM.
Quote from ToToToToToRo :
I never knew we had to pay the sales tax back. I thought if we make purchases and there was no tax, i thought that was the end of it. Even if the company/warehouse is not in OUR shipping address state.

There are so many companies that don't collect sales tax on customer who does not live in the state.
For example, ADORAMA, B&H, BUYDIG, BEACHCAMERA, I think AMAZON for some states but I'm not sure.

What about people who live in Delaware? Where there are so sales tax whatsoever? So they have to pay sales tax to CT even though they get NO benefit from the state?
If you are traveling in a different state and you purchase something there you pay that state's sales tax. Personally I think that is the way online purchases should be handled as well. Though there are states than expect you to pay sales tax on any items you purchase while you are in a different state as well.
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02-25-2018 at 08:07 AM.
02-25-2018 at 08:07 AM.
Quote from ToToToToToRo :
I never knew we had to pay the sales tax back. I thought if we make purchases and there was no tax, i thought that was the end of it. Even if the company/warehouse is not in OUR shipping address state.

There are so many companies that don't collect sales tax on customer who does not live in the state.
For example, ADORAMA, B&H, BUYDIG, BEACHCAMERA, I think AMAZON for some states but I'm not sure.

What about people who live in Delaware? Where there are so sales tax whatsoever? So they have to pay sales tax to CT even though they get NO benefit from the state?
you are supposed to pay your states tax.
For exapmle if I buy a $1000 tv from amazon I am supposed to go to my local tax department and pay them the $115 I would have been taxed in a local store.

Not that state where it was shipped from.
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Mr.Chinito
02-25-2018 at 08:13 AM.
02-25-2018 at 08:13 AM.
Quote from genghiskhan :
you are supposed to pay your states tax.
For exapmle if I buy a $1000 tv from amazon I am supposed to go to my local tax department and pay them the $115 I would have been taxed in a local store.

Not that state where it was shipped from.
Damn, I never knew this.
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genghiskhan
02-25-2018 at 08:15 AM.
02-25-2018 at 08:15 AM.
Quote from ToToToToToRo :
Damn, I never knew this.
Don't worry those who know don't do it.
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02-25-2018 at 09:34 AM.
02-25-2018 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from ToToToToToRo :
Damn, I never knew this.
Say you knew and pay the full penalty.
Say you didn't know and get a discount.
That's the DMV, does that also apply to the IRS?
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killercut
03-29-2018 at 11:29 AM.
03-29-2018 at 11:29 AM.
Just thought you guys should know. I did not get the 2nd email that newegg was sending. Regarding them giving you or helping you get a refund, or if you didn't pay yet what to do. It seems that they are refunding people who got notices after March 19th, but not people who got their notices before that, I figured that based on what some guy at the DRS told me over the phone when I called the number on the bill. He was shady about it. I did call newegg and they told me to reply to the email and she said she cannot give info in regards to this over the phone... VERY SHADY! I did an online chat, and the guy said he talked to his GM and would get someone to contact me by email. I spent over $8k on newegg, so this bill is not spare change... I wasn't even a resident of CT yet in 2016, had stuff sent there while I was moving... The DRS guy says that because it was shipped there, that makes you a resident, right.........
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