Pets

I like your site, I just got a 29gallon setup. I treated the water and filtered, now I have a couple of goldfish in there just to make sure the water is somewhat livable, they have been in there for a few days everything ok.

any suggestions about what fish to put in there???? I don't reallly want an oscar I think they are mean fish.

Try danios, mollies, cory cats, guppies, some tetras, etc. Keep in mind goldfish usually like the water colder than tropical fish do so you might run into some issues there. Oscars will get way too big for a 29.

juggernaut did you see this post by any chance??

I have no faith in any store that would sell sea apples. That also goes for any store that sells Moorish Idols, Gonioporias, wild caught Seahorses, and Shark Eggs.

It also blows my mind that you'd still be willing to keep one knowing full well that it could destroy everything you've worked so hard to attain within a few hours. I've seen it happen before and all I'm tying to do is prevent you from making a terrible mistake. Yes, they can be kept but its quite a risk to take on. Btw, DT's makes a great brand of phytoplankton to feed with.

But hey, its only my 2 cents and its your tank. Take my advice however you want.

I don't like them because they seem to be too aggressive

I put a goldfish in my friends oscar tank and he just outright ate it

yeah, i was on my way to bed when i posted that last one.


btw, you're impatient

thanks for the info, I have the tank filled and cycliing, with nothing in it. I'm sure you would be impatient too!!! I really just wanna chuck some fish in there, but know better

sigh... how do you know i didn't buy it online? maybe i didn't get my sea apple from the LFS. would that make it all that better? less likely to explode and catch the house on fire?

why would it blow your mind? why set up a salt water tank and only put hardy fish and crabs in it? that would be a big waste in my opinion. why not get beautiful things to put in there? if you want these things then you have to take the risks, but risk reduces when you know what you're doing and take the time to care for the tank inhabitants.

following your analogy, i should build a bomb shelter under my house and stay there forever, because i never know when a co-worker might bring a gun in to work, or when the next serial killer might come around and i happen to be there, or someone who just carjacked a vehicle runs a red light while i'm going through the intersection and literally plow me over while i'm riding my bike. or maybe when i leave work another satelite will fall from orbit, crash into me and fuse to my body leaving me a charred corpse with an awkward size casket. we take risks all the time.

i don't come on here criticizing what you recommend to people or what you put in your tank, why do you find something wrong with everything i setup and buy? dad? is that you? i know your intentions may be good, but you're not the only person that has had certain fish inhabitants, maybe some people don't have problems with things, not everyone goes out to buy a bucket, fill it with water and dump fish in. some people actually set up tanks, you're not the only one. i would imagine this is the case otherwise stuff like that wouldn't be for sale.

Thats a damn stupid analogy you went with there. Where do you think sea apples got the nickname "cuke nukes?" You think that I'm making this stuff up from personal experience only? Why don't you go buy a blue ring octopus if thats your line of reasoning because some stores still sell them. Hey, they only kill a few people a year but they look really cool.

What I said was more of a warning than anything that "hey, this thing could die suddenly and wipe out your tank." Most people that are aware of the danger associated with these animals wouldn't buy one. By the simple fact that you bought one I made the assumption you didn't know jack about them. I guess you took it as a challenge or something because I was wrong.

Don't bring up this dad thing. This is the first inhabitant of yours I've commented on so far. You're a beginner and most beginners listen to the fish store for advice. I wasn't aware at the time when I said something about the plenum system that you'd been talking to a bunch of fish guys. My mistake.

Stuff like sea apples and the other animals I mentioned will always be for sale because there is always someone out there that likes what they look like and
a) gets suckered in by the fish store, which is always looking out for their bottom line
b) takes it as a challenge and buys the animal anyway

Screw the fact that 9/10 moorish idols die within 3 months from starvation. Screw the fact that seahorses require a constant supply of cultured live food. Screw the fact that sea apples require a ton of phytoplankton (which will stress a small system) and can die and wipe your tank within a few hours. Screw the fact that sharks don't belong in anything but the largest tanks. People will still keep buying them as long as the ocean will keep supplying them. Its the sad fact but its the truth. If by me speaking out I can keep one more of those animals in the wild so it doesn't end up in the toilet, I'm going to do so. Take offense if you want but thats not the way I mean it.

Here are my pets - Hermit Crabs. Since my both my mother and my wife have allergies, I have never had traditional pets.