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03-09-2019 at 08:37 AM.
03-09-2019 at 08:37 AM.
I've heard this doesn't work as well on Asians and just circles all of Asia. Is that true?
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jo55jo
03-09-2019 at 12:44 PM.
03-09-2019 at 12:44 PM.
Quote from phillint :
Repost and in future you will not get life insurance and health insurance
You post the same thing in every similar thread and each time I catch it, I have to remind you and others that the GINA act prevents insurance companies from using DNA info to factor into health insurance and employment decisions.

Yes, there is currently a loophole for life insurance that will likely get closed in the future. And just because that loophole exists does not mean that any life insurance companies are taking advantage of this loophole. Can you provide any evidential cites as to people who have been turned down for life insurance? I doubt it.
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BounceHard
03-09-2019 at 12:46 PM.
03-09-2019 at 12:46 PM.
The company will own your genetic info and can give it to the government or sell it to pharma companies without you knowing. Dont do it.
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jo55jo
03-09-2019 at 01:31 PM.
03-09-2019 at 01:31 PM.
Quote from BounceHard :
The company will own your genetic info and can give it to the government or sell it to pharma companies without you knowing. Dont do it.
The only reason anyone would want YOUR DNA would be for their zombie army.EEK!
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03-09-2019 at 03:44 PM.
03-09-2019 at 03:44 PM.
Quote from jo55jo :
You post the same thing in every similar thread and each time I catch it, I have to remind you and others that the GINA act prevents insurance companies from using DNA info to factor into health insurance and employment decisions.

Yes, there is currently a loophole for life insurance that will likely get closed in the future. And just because that loophole exists does not mean that any life insurance companies are taking advantage of this loophole. Can you provide any evidential cites as to people who have been turned down for life insurance? I doubt it.
Republican-backed bill in the House that clarifies GINA rules as part of healthcare repeal-and-replace has kicked up a controversy. H.R. 1313 says that parts of GINA do not apply to workplace wellness programs. These programs, originally promoted in the Affordable Care Act, are meant to encourage a healthy lifestyle, and employees who participate may end up with lower premiums. If a company's wellness program includes genetic tests to identify health risks—as some are starting to do—then employees who refuse the tests may pay hundreds or or thousands more per year than their colleagues.

The uproar after STAT News reported on the bill is a reminder that fears about genetic discrimination are still very real. GINA exists for good reason.

Despite the landmark nature of GINA, the law has real limits. The statute covers employers and health insurance companies. It does not cover schools, mortgage lending, or housing. And it excludes other forms of insurance like life insurance, long-term care, and disability insurance. These issues, anticipated in the 1990s, have come up again in recent years, showing that often, genetic tests can have unanticipated consequences.


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When genetic-discrimination legislation was first introduced in the 1990s, genetic tests were still the province of academic science. The Human Genome Project was underway. The project also included a study of legal, social, and ethical issues around genetic tests, and the results were not encouraging.
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HapShaughnessy
03-09-2019 at 05:09 PM.
03-09-2019 at 05:09 PM.
A Canadian news consumer show discovered that all these tests have huge holes. Identical twins tested as having their ancestry originating from completely different parts of the planet. Mostly horsecrap.

https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ep...he-results
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03-09-2019 at 05:12 PM.
03-09-2019 at 05:12 PM.
Quote from BounceHard :
The company will own your genetic info and can give it to the government or sell it to pharma companies without you knowing. Dont do it.
I agree...corporate america/government already has too many ways to violate our constitutional rights! Pirates
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03-09-2019 at 05:28 PM.
03-09-2019 at 05:28 PM.
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A Canadian news consumer show discovered that all these tests have huge holes. Identical twins tested as having their ancestry originating from completely different parts of the planet. Mostly horsecrap.

https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ep...he-results
There's one thing they neglected to mention in that video, it depends on the level of genetic variance. Some regions have high levels of homogenous genetic sharing, like Japan and North Korea are good examples. If you're Japanese and you take a DNA test, it'll pinpoint Japan, but other parts of the world have more genetic mixing, like for example along the Silk Road, or the best example is the United States (Israel is a really good one too). America has had a very high level of genetic mixing for the past 300 years, so if one of your parents claims to come from an Irish lineage and another claims Russian, the approximations will be a lot more difficult. I did the Nat Geo Genome 2.0 test about 10 years ago, and it was relatively accurate. Most of my family are Jews from Carpathia, and that's what it showed, most familial ancestors coming from Eastern Europe and Western Asia (Israel). The most interesting part is that you can share your story with others that have similar DNA, so when I looked at stories similar to mine they were all Ashkenazi Jews. Basically, unless you're first or second generation American, the test might not be as reliable.
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HapShaughnessy
03-09-2019 at 05:31 PM.
03-09-2019 at 05:31 PM.
But these companies are marketing these expensive products as close to gospel. They are far from that.
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PhrostByte
03-09-2019 at 06:53 PM.
03-09-2019 at 06:53 PM.
Yeah that's true.. the methodology isn't perfect but it's pretty good. I think for most people they just accept it as a fun little personal journey, its not 100% accurate, and can't be.
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jo55jo
03-09-2019 at 10:43 PM.
03-09-2019 at 10:43 PM.
Quote from PossumLodge :
A Canadian news consumer show discovered that all these tests have huge holes. Identical twins tested as having their ancestry originating from completely different parts of the planet. Mostly horsecrap.

https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ep...he-results [cbc.ca]
What is horsecrap is your post. While you provided a link to a 23 minute video story, which no one is going to watch, that you distilled down into two words "Mostly horsecrap", for some reason, you neglected to provide a link to the response the companies provided explaining that DNA is not an exact science at this point. Given that the response document is 8500 words long, one wonders if YOU actually read the document or if you did, whether you understood it, since if you did, then you would understand why & how the results occurred. Whew.

Here's the response link for anyone that wants to read it and truly understand the issue raised by this post:
https://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/bl...es-respond
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