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cool-blue
03-15-2019 at 09:58 AM.
03-15-2019 at 09:58 AM.
No batteries. No deal. Does anyone have this? Does anyone know what kind of run time you get out of a 4 amp hour battery?
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apathyduck
03-15-2019 at 09:59 AM.
03-15-2019 at 09:59 AM.
Quote from cool-blue :
No batteries. No deal. Does anyone have this? Does anyone know what kind of run time you get out of a 4 amp hour battery?
From personal experience with
4Ah about 12-14 minutes
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jmikeh
03-15-2019 at 10:13 AM.
03-15-2019 at 10:13 AM.
It's also 'FACTORY BLEMISHED'
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superkaz661
03-15-2019 at 10:14 AM.
03-15-2019 at 10:14 AM.
Quote from apathyduck :
From personal experience with
4Ah about 12-14 minutes
good grief that's pathetic.
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rseiter
03-15-2019 at 10:21 AM.
03-15-2019 at 10:21 AM.
Quote from apathyduck :
From personal experience with
4Ah about 12-14 minutes
Thanks. The P108 is 72Wh so for 12 minutes we are looking at around 350W or 20A continuous draw. That's a demanding load. I wonder how the 6Ah and 9Ah batteries do.

Here is a detailed review: http://toolsinaction.com/ryobi-we...um-review/
One comment there claims 15-20 minutes with the 4Ah.

Another good review: https://www.protoolreviews.com/to...770/34951/
They claim 12.5 minutes with a 4Ah.

This post is a good deal, but it is worth thinking about buying this as a free bare tool with one of those HD Ryobi deals (I got mine with the $159 brushless deal, but have not used it yet).

P.S. This seems like an ideal tool for 120VAC hybrid support. I wonder why they did not do that.
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Gadget_Man
03-15-2019 at 11:09 AM.
03-15-2019 at 11:09 AM.
I picked up the certified pre-owned one for $55; probably the cheapest you'll be able to get one of these.
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machcity
03-15-2019 at 11:19 AM.
03-15-2019 at 11:19 AM.
I have this vac. It is VERY loud. I have to use ear plugs when its on. I got the vac along with a 6ah battery during that $159 bundle deal. I have never timed it but it does drain fast, maybe 15-20 minutes.
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mm-chi
03-15-2019 at 03:20 PM.
03-15-2019 at 03:20 PM.
I have this as well and it does last around 10 minutes with the 4 AH battery.

There are total trade offs with a battery powered vac but not having to pull a cord around the basement works perfectly. Consider this a companion to a corded shop vac, not a replacement.
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mehdikettani89
03-15-2019 at 07:27 PM.
03-15-2019 at 07:27 PM.
I don't get it ! Is this a corded or cordless vacuum ?
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chong67
03-15-2019 at 07:42 PM.
03-15-2019 at 07:42 PM.
Older model.
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apathyduck
03-15-2019 at 09:16 PM.
03-15-2019 at 09:16 PM.
Quote from superkaz661 :
good grief that's pathetic.
Yep!

Quote from rseiter :
Thanks. The P108 is 72Wh so for 12 minutes we are looking at around 350W or 20A continuous draw. That's a demanding load. I wonder how the 6Ah and 9Ah batteries do.

Here is a detailed review: http://toolsinaction.com/ryobi-we...um-review/
One comment there claims 15-20 minutes with the 4Ah.

Another good review: https://www.protoolreviews.com/to...770/34951/
They claim 12.5 minutes with a 4Ah.

This post is a good deal, but it is worth thinking about buying this as a free bare tool with one of those HD Ryobi deals (I got mine with the $159 brushless deal, but have not used it yet).

P.S. This seems like an ideal tool for 120VAC hybrid support. I wonder why they did not do that.
I've built several 'hybrid' power supplies now using empty Ryobi battery shells and repurposed 18-20v power supplies and quite a lot of research & experimentation in to the matter later I've discovered a few things along the way. First, when dealing with motors you don't just need an (20v) 20a power supply - you need something that can handle surge up to twice that (40a) for motor startup. Power supplies that can do this are 1) large 2) heavy 3) relatively expensive for the price point they needed this product to be in. You can build your own, but the industrial style variable power supply you need to buy to handle this load will run you a minimum of $80 and that's low direct from China pricing. If they were custom fab'ing a solution in house they could probably do it for much less - but still much more than they wanted to put in to the product. I'm guessing that's why they didn't. Still doesn't explain why they won't release an accessory to do this that will work with all their tools unless they're that afraid of it eating in to battery sales.

Quote from chong67 :
Older model.
No. Current model. This product has been out less than two years.

Quote from mehdikettani89 :
I don't get it ! Is this a corded or cordless vacuum ?
Cordless. There is no corded option for this,

Quote from Gadget_Man :
I picked up the certified pre-owned one for $55; probably the cheapest you'll be able to get one of these.
After owning one and returning it due to poor battery life, I've walked passed three opportunities to buy it brand new (factory damaged box from DTO) at $40.
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Gadget_Man
03-16-2019 at 08:32 AM.
03-16-2019 at 08:32 AM.
Quote from apathyduck :
Yep!



I've built several 'hybrid' power supplies now using empty Ryobi battery shells and repurposed 18-20v power supplies and quite a lot of research & experimentation in to the matter later I've discovered a few things along the way. First, when dealing with motors you don't just need an (20v) 20a power supply - you need something that can handle surge up to twice that (40a) for motor startup. Power supplies that can do this are 1) large 2) heavy 3) relatively expensive for the price point they needed this product to be in. You can build your own, but the industrial style variable power supply you need to buy to handle this load will run you a minimum of $80 and that's low direct from China pricing. If they were custom fab'ing a solution in house they could probably do it for much less - but still much more than they wanted to put in to the product. I'm guessing that's why they didn't. Still doesn't explain why they won't release an accessory to do this that will work with all their tools unless they're that afraid of it eating in to battery sales.



No. Current model. This product has been out less than two years.



Cordless. There is no corded option for this,



After owning one and returning it due to poor battery life, I've walked passed three opportunities to buy it brand new (factory damaged box from DTO) at $40.
Hmm, well $40 is better but I've never seen it that cheap. Did a search on SD and didn't see one that cheap either. Must have been some rare sales.
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tomwil
03-16-2019 at 08:41 PM.
03-16-2019 at 08:41 PM.
Quote from apathyduck :
I've built several 'hybrid' power supplies now using empty Ryobi battery shells and repurposed 18-20v power supplies and quite a lot of research & experimentation in to the matter later I've discovered a few things along the way. First, when dealing with motors you don't just need an (20v) 20a power supply - you need something that can handle surge up to twice that (40a) for motor startup. Power supplies that can do this are 1) large 2) heavy 3) relatively expensive for the price point they needed this product to be in. You can build your own, but the industrial style variable power supply you need to buy to handle this load will run you a minimum of $80 and that's low direct from China pricing. If they were custom fab'ing a solution in house they could probably do it for much less - but still much more than they wanted to put in to the product. I'm guessing that's why they didn't. Still doesn't explain why they won't release an accessory to do this that will work with all their tools unless they're that afraid of it eating in to battery sales.
Wonder if the beefy AC power supply supplied with the Ryobi Transfer Pump [homedepot.com] or Ryobi Drain Auger [homedepot.com] would supply enough power to operate the vac?
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jojodakilla
03-16-2019 at 08:53 PM.
03-16-2019 at 08:53 PM.
I had this and I also own the Milwaukee one. The ryobi one is awesome. Seriously who only has one battery? Bunch of cry babies. It's awesome when you dont want to run a power cord or just quickly vacuuming something up in the garage. All shop vacs are fairly loud. This is better than my Milwaukee one
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