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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Apr 10, 2020 02:12 AM
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Alex8919Apr 10, 2020 02:12 AM
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I asked better.com to match the rate and locked the rate two days ago. the rate is decreasing. Can I ask them to match again?
Apr 10, 2020 02:38 AM
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sachmoneyApr 10, 2020 02:38 AM
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Hey guys,

Looking for advice. Better was able to match a lender for a 30 year @3.25

option 1 is what they matched and beat the price by roughly $1000. Essentially it won't cost me anything to close. (except title, govt fees and escrow of course)

The #2 is alternate, to go down in rate to 3.125 but I'd have to pay points.

I'm saving about $2k in interest over 5 yr span if I go with 3.125..

Any thoughts/advise is appreciated..

Option 1: 3.25% ($1702 in credits) 30 year fixed

New monthly principal and interest payment: $1131 ($250 savings)

Interest savings over the next 5 years: $14,891

Breakeven period: 0 months

Option 2: 3.125% ($179 in credits) 30 year fixed

New monthly principal and interest payment: $1114 ($268 savings)

Interest savings over the next 5 years: $16,448

Breakeven period: 4 months

With this option, you'd be saving $268 a month plus an average of $294 per month that would be going towards your principal vs interest over the next 5 years.
Last edited by sachmoney April 9, 2020 at 07:43 PM.
Apr 10, 2020 03:19 AM
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sd72986Apr 10, 2020 03:19 AM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
I asked better.com to match the rate and locked the rate two days ago. the rate is decreasing. Can I ask them to match again?
I would read the terms of Better Price Guarantee but I think you can as long as you haven't locked yet.

If you locked, they do have a float-down option (or at least did a couple of months ago), although the terms are somewhat restrictive.
Apr 10, 2020 03:20 AM
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sd72986Apr 10, 2020 03:20 AM
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Quote from isekii :
I got my credit today. Mine was also sold few weeks after it got funded to mr Cooper. My first payment is due on may 1st
Thanks for clarifying - sounds like you got the credit much more quickly. Oh well, guess I'll wait the full 8-12 weeks...
Apr 10, 2020 03:25 AM
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robdlsApr 10, 2020 03:25 AM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
I asked better.com to match the rate and locked the rate two days ago. the rate is decreasing. Can I ask them to match again?
Yes, you can! There is a place on the website under your account to upload the loan estimate. After you lock however they told me you are no longer eligible for the guarantee, but will try to match (not beat by $1000) to keep your business. Also I had a free float down by .125% if the rates dropped by .25 or more.
Apr 10, 2020 11:41 AM
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RhizzlebopApr 10, 2020 11:41 AM
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Looks like rates are falling. Time to jump back on 5his since rates were up on March 24th when I started

I applied through better and a Zillow affiliate Somber-something

I started with aimloans but realized my credit was frozen and experienced made me write a letter to unlock it. Should have been done by Monday the 6th.

I am gonna look into cost co mortgage and maybe sofi and see if I can get 3% at 20 yr on 200k with low closing and almost no points. It's a goal. Maybe unachievable
Apr 10, 2020 12:58 PM
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borgcr01Apr 10, 2020 12:58 PM
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What specific information do I need to give to Better to match another offer? Are the prequalification rates listed online from someone like SoFI enough, or do I need to go through the whole process with SoFi including hard credit pull to take it all the way to the end and then present Better with a more official offer?

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Apr 10, 2020 01:53 PM
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digitalfoolApr 10, 2020 01:53 PM
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12 weeks 2 days - official timeline from funding to credit for me.
Apr 10, 2020 01:59 PM
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techoinApr 10, 2020 01:59 PM
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Quote from robdls :
Yes, you can! There is a place on the website under your account to upload the loan estimate. After you lock however they told me you are no longer eligible for the guarantee, but will try to match (not beat by $1000) to keep your business. Also I had a free float down by .125% if the rates dropped by .25 or more.
which rates do they refer in case of float down? How can one confirm by how much their rates have dropped?
Last edited by techoin April 10, 2020 at 07:06 AM.
Apr 10, 2020 02:09 PM
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hungiemaApr 10, 2020 02:09 PM
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https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MORTGAGE30US

this is the chart they follow if you guys want to see if the rate drop or not. it changes every Thursday.
Apr 10, 2020 02:16 PM
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coolmannApr 10, 2020 02:16 PM
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Question for those who are closing during the pandemic. How did you arrange the meeting with the notary? Did they allow to do it remotely? I don't want a stranger in my house. Advice?
Apr 10, 2020 02:23 PM
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techoinApr 10, 2020 02:23 PM
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Quote from hungiema :
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MORTGAGE30US

this is the chart they follow if you guys want to see if the rate drop or not. it changes every Thursday.
thanks. I rate matched to Sofi.com and locked 3.25% with $4300 lender credit on 03/31. So FRED rate needs to drop to 3% OR rate on 3/31 and todays date needs to have at least .25 drop for float down? Also rates on the website seem to change weekly so which rate is used mid-week?
Apr 10, 2020 02:39 PM
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hungiemaApr 10, 2020 02:39 PM
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Quote from techoin :
thanks. I rate matched to Sofi.com and locked 3.25% with $4300 lender credit on 03/31. So FRED rate needs to drop to 3% OR rate on 3/31 and todays date needs to have at least .25 drop for float down? Also rates on the website seem to change weekly so which rate is used mid-week?
im not sure which data sheet sofi follows but this is the one that better.com follows(at least this is what the loan officer told me). They stick to the rate from previous thursday until the rate changes the following thursday. at least this is what they told me on the phone.

if the rate drops .25 midweek, i dont think they will do anything , as the rate changes way too rapidly for them to keep track. I think its something you would have to tell them. you should keep pounding other lender to beat your current loan estimate by .25. and then have better.com beat that new estimate. sigh, its such a painful process. but saves you lots of money for the effort.
Apr 10, 2020 03:39 PM
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duastoApr 10, 2020 03:39 PM
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Quote from hungiema :
im not sure which data sheet sofi follows but this is the one that better.com follows(at least this is what the loan officer told me). They stick to the rate from previous thursday until the rate changes the following thursday. at least this is what they told me on the phone.

if the rate drops .25 midweek, i dont think they will do anything , as the rate changes way too rapidly for them to keep track. I think its something you would have to tell them. you should keep pounding other lender to beat your current loan estimate by .25. and then have better.com beat that new estimate. sigh, its such a painful process. but saves you lots of money for the effort.
Same thing here. I locked my rate on 4/3. I asked them for a float down yesterday and they told me my rate on 4/3 is better than current. I verified it by checking their websites(homepage) and that chart that you posted.

They told me to check again next thursday.

I think the lender credits and rates change every day though? I guess its just the float down option that they match only every thursday?

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Apr 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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hungiemaApr 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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Quote from duasto :
Same thing here. I locked my rate on 4/3. I asked them for a float down yesterday and they told me my rate on 4/3 is better than current. I verified it by checking their websites(homepage) and that chart that you posted.

They told me to check again next thursday.

I think the lender credits and rates change every day though? I guess its just the float down option that they match only every thursday?
yea i think that's the way it goes.

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