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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

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American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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cdancer20
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So it's odd. I'm at the point where I now have a closing agent. However, after 2.5 weeks they determined that I need an appraisal done on the house. I'm not sure why it changed.
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CycloneFW
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Quote from cdancer20 :
Yes rates were much better after applying. I don't think online even showed a credit at the rate I wanted. My final LE match came from LenderFi. The LenderFi guy told me that the rates showing online were incorrect. I ended up with 3.25% with no points and over $4000 in credit. In the end, Better could only match and not beat. This is with excellent credit and loan amount between $350k-$400k
I checked LenderFi over and over and over again when I was shopping for an offer to give Better. I never thought the options after applying would be different (or much so at least) than what they give on their quote tool. Darn!
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m_mnc
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what was the closing cost and was it 15 or 30 yr? im looking to refinance 15 yr
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m_mnc
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Quote from stm69 :
Hi All,

Closing the loop here with some dates/data points. Credit posted!

Applied 2/27, price matched Lenderfi 2/28, conditionally approved 3/3, Closed 3/21, funded 3/26, loan transfered to TMS and then sold to FM/TMS, $2500 credit 5/12.

Borrowed around $400K, 3.125% with ~$2K lender credit before fees, excellent credit and LTV.
what was the closing cost and was it 15 or 30 yr? im looking to refinance 15 yr
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cdancer20
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Quote from CycloneFW :
I checked LenderFi over and over and over again when I was shopping for an offer to give Better. I never thought the options after applying would be different (or much so at least) than what they give on their quote tool. Darn!
Same here. When I first started thinking about refinancing back in Feb, LenderFi had the cheapest rates. Then they locked down applications for like a month. When they finally came back their rates were uber high. I waited another month for them to go down but then decided to just apply with others companies like AimLoan. I put in an application with LenderFi just to see what they would offer and since it didn't hurt my credit score anymore. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised.
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Quote from m_mnc :
what was the closing cost and was it 15 or 30 yr? im looking to refinance 15 yr
That was for a 30 year. Closing costs are highly variable depending on where you are, but were about $1K for us, excluding escrow prepaids.
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Quote from stm69 :
That was for a 30 year. Closing costs are highly variable depending on where you are, but were about $1K for us, excluding escrow prepaids.
thank you, i just applied and lets see how it goes !

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Quote from m_mnc :
thank you, i just applied and lets see how it goes !
Good luck! Remember, the best deal is to pricematch somewhere else and get the $2500 better credit, so do all your apps close together to minimize the credit hit.
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Quote from cdancer20 :
So it's odd. I'm at the point where I now have a closing agent. However, after 2.5 weeks they determined that I need an appraisal done on the house. I'm not sure why it changed.
There is a task to waive it. Have you done that?

If not, my guess is there is a price updates on housing markets around your area. Due to covid, Better.com are extremely careful. I had to send them my updated bank statements/paycheck multiple times. My entire starts 4/3 and just ended yesterday. So not as quick as what others
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Quote from duasto :
There is a task to waive it. Have you done that?

If not, my guess is there is a price updates on housing markets around your area. Due to covid, Better.com are extremely careful. I had to send them my updated bank statements/paycheck multiple times. My entire starts 4/3 and just ended yesterday. So not as quick as what others
I also believe the stated value triggers an appraisal to check. For instance, I knew I'd be under 50% LTV, so when it asked what my estimated property value was, I lowballed it. I figure the value wouldn't matter and I wanted a number where I wouldn't trigger some sort of check. All the lenders ended up getting a number $3k under what I personally would have thought a good guess for my house was. If I went with my guess number, I suspect it would have triggered an appraisal to "justify" that higher number, even though it would play no role in getting my loan approved.
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daftsynth
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Has anyone applied for an AMEX card for this offer? I'm assuming the Blue Card is sufficient? I have a AMEX Business card that isn't eligible.
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Quote from CycloneFW :
I also believe the stated value triggers an appraisal to check. For instance, I knew I'd be under 50% LTV, so when it asked what my estimated property value was, I lowballed it. I figure the value wouldn't matter and I wanted a number where I wouldn't trigger some sort of check. All the lenders ended up getting a number $3k under what I personally would have thought a good guess for my house was. If I went with my guess number, I suspect it would have triggered an appraisal to "justify" that higher number, even though it would play no role in getting my loan approved.
In my case, my loan expert let me know while inputting the estimated appraisal value if its gonna require actual appraisal.

We did this after locking the rates. They have a way to check it what appraisal value will not require appraisal. We played around by inputting different value in the system to find out the highest value without risking to have an appraisal.
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Quote from daftsynth :
Has anyone applied for an AMEX card for this offer? I'm assuming the Blue Card is sufficient? I have a AMEX Business card that isn't eligible.
I have the same question.
This offer is not showing in my amex offers
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Quote from duasto :
There is a task to waive it. Have you done that?

If not, my guess is there is a price updates on housing markets around your area. Due to covid, Better.com are extremely careful. I had to send them my updated bank statements/paycheck multiple times. My entire starts 4/3 and just ended yesterday. So not as quick as what others
Quote from CycloneFW :
I also believe the stated value triggers an appraisal to check. For instance, I knew I'd be under 50% LTV, so when it asked what my estimated property value was, I lowballed it. I figure the value wouldn't matter and I wanted a number where I wouldn't trigger some sort of check. All the lenders ended up getting a number $3k under what I personally would have thought a good guess for my house was. If I went with my guess number, I suspect it would have triggered an appraisal to "justify" that higher number, even though it would play no role in getting my loan approved.
I don't remember if I had a task for it or if it was an email that I received that said the appraisal was waived. I asked what causes this and as someone below mentioned, she said that they plug the data into a tool from Fannie Mae that determines if an appraisal has happened.

I set it to 20% LTV of what we bought for less than 2 years ago. I've been eyeing the market and the area has actually increased since we bought. The estimated value that Better has on the LE is actually 30% LTV so a lot more than I'm asking for my loan. Every lender that I talked to actually valued our house much higher and said we wouldn't need an appraisal. I guess it won't hurt though to get a new value of my house. I just hate the thought of 1) It coming so late in the process when I'm ready to close and 2) obviously covid issues.

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Quote from cdancer20 :
I don't remember if I had a task for it or if it was an email that I received that said the appraisal was waived. I asked what causes this and as someone below mentioned, she said that they plug the data into a tool from Fannie Mae that determines if an appraisal has happened.

I set it to 20% LTV of what we bought for less than 2 years ago. I've been eyeing the market and the area has actually increased since we bought. The estimated value that Better has on the LE is actually 30% LTV so a lot more than I'm asking for my loan. Every lender that I talked to actually valued our house much higher and said we wouldn't need an appraisal. I guess it won't hurt though to get a new value of my house. I just hate the thought of 1) It coming so late in the process when I'm ready to close and 2) obviously covid issues.
I think you might be confused with Appraisal FEE waived because of AMEX promotion .... They determine if the Actual Appraisal is waive when they input your data in my case(Fannie Mae too) after they approve you. Then there will be a task to confirm if you really want to waive it.

I'm not sure if you can ask them to re-input it if it's big deal for you. Mine is a big deal because I'm close to 80% LTV and it determines if I'm going to need a PMI which is a deal breaker for me. So I tried not to risk it with the actual appraisal.

Btw, You can review your completed tasks. So I will suggest to check that if you agreed to waived it already.
Last edited by duasto May 13, 2020 at 04:11 PM.

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