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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jun 25, 2020
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daw4888
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Quick Question. At what step of the process should they ask for your AMEX number?
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sleekwallet
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Quote from daw4888 :
Quick Question. At what step of the process should they ask for your AMEX number?
right before setting the closing date
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Quote from sleekwallet :
right before setting the closing date

Thanks. Just sent in all the info after rate lock. Just making sure there wasnt a missed steps.

Thanks Everyone.
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Switching2Geico
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i got quoted by loan depot for 15 year 2.435% on a 15 year.
loan value at 500k. L2V 42%. costs $1600 (after lender credits). probably can get them to waive it.

is it a good offer before i move to match with better.com?
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seawolf
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Quote from MrDioji :
What offers you "should be" able to get from other lenders varies widely based on each applicant's profile.

Better matched panther_fan's best offer. So they are not paying an extra $610 in points and getting a higher rate.They are getting "similar" points and rate, AND the $2,500.

We get it, you had a bad experience. Please stop spamming this thread with it.

Obviously people should calculate ​how upfront costs, long term savings, Amex credit all factor in. But many (most?) people here are getting identical or $1,000 savings by getting Better to match - in addition to the $2,500 Amex credit. In my case, I'm calculating as though the Amex credit doesn't exist. It's the icing on the cake. I am saving $1,000 by going to with Better, for the same rates and terms as the best I could find on the market. I am not giving up points or rates to get the Amex credit.
Quote from Aaron_1121 :
They denied to match rates from three other lenders for me as well.

I am fine if they don't agree to match rates. However, better is very deceptive about it. I had 10+ calls from better, and an email from them about the rate match guarantee.

After I gave better.com three LE's from other lenders, they refused to match the rate, saying that it does not apply to the AMEX offer or rates that cannot be seen on a public website.

If you really want a $2500 credit, then go with better.com. If you have good or excellent credit, shop around and you will receive superior rates from other lenders.This can save you much more than $2500. https://usmortgagecalculator.org/

What better is offering is no more than the mortgage equivalent of a cell phone promotion. You get a great rebate upfront.....only to pay more every month for the life of the contract.

Slickdealers - Don't be fooled. With a couple of hours of comparison shopping, you can get a better rate, and it will impact you for the next 15-30 years.
Quote from Aaron_1121 :
Here is a realtime comparison of Better.com with other advertised rates, as of right now

6/25/20 @ 12:15 PM PST

Example Property 600K , 92078 area code. 350K loan with a 740+ credit score.

Better


Zillow


Bankrate


In this example, you would receive a far better deal from any of the other lenders than better.com. If you get a few estimates and push lenders against one another, you can get even lower than these advertised rates.
We get it. Better blew you off but you are sounding like a broken record.

It is well established on this thread and other forums as well that better's initial offer is not competitive at all.

For those of us with applications, there is a task titled "Upload a competing Loan Estimate" under "Completed Task." This is an a somewhat "hidden" and absolutely "required" task to make transacting with better worthwhile even with AMEX.

A lot of us are refinancing because it may sense with/without better in the picture. The price match + $1K and the AMEX $2.5K credit it just icing.
Last edited by seawolf June 25, 2020 at 02:49 PM.
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Quote from Switching2Geico :
i got quoted by loan depot for 15 year 2.435% on a 15 year.
loan value at 500k. L2V 42%. costs $1600 (after lender credits). probably can get them to waive it.

is it a good offer before i move to match with better.com?
Loan Depot is typically not the cheapest out there. Check a few other sites. They have been posted here a few times. Without knowing all you things like zipcode, credit score, etc it is hard to say.
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Quote from Switching2Geico :
i got quoted by loan depot for 15 year 2.435% on a 15 year.
loan value at 500k. L2V 42%. costs $1600 (after lender credits). probably can get them to waive it.

is it a good offer before i move to match with better.com?
I got quoted by LoanDepot yesterday for 15 year at 2.375% for 15 year; L2V ~83%; $0 for loan costs after Lender Credit.

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Quote from nicemann :
Loan Depot is typically not the cheapest out there. Check a few other sites. They have been posted here a few times. Without knowing all you things like zipcode, credit score, etc it is hard to say.
credit score is 750-760. california
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Quote from daftsynth :
My positive experience thus far.

mid May - started shopping for rates. Applied to lenders on Zillow, Bankrate and at LenderFi and better.com. Each day I'd check rates. I'd reach out to contacts at various lenders to get quotes if I felt rates were favorable. LenderFi's website is a good place to get a barometer of the market.

6/2 - Got a competing LE for a 20 year fixed at 2.75% $1600 loan costs after credits. Sent it over to my contact at better.com, he answered within an hour. He was only able to beat it by $300-400. He generated a LE for me. I went on to the website, played with the rate table and was able to better it by $3k. I paid for the appraisal and locked in the rate. A+B+C (including appraisal) was 2k. Lender credit $3700.

6/4 - During underwriting, I was told I was eligible for an appraisal waiver. better.com initial title costs were $1400. Their title company said I qualified for a resissue rate which would knock it down to $1100. I decided to use another title company whos cost were only $650. A+B+C is $700 and $3700 in lender credits.

6/18 - Moved from processing to closing. Entered AMEX number in one of the tasks

6/24 - Appraisal refunded.

6/26 - Closing
Congratulations. Which title company? Location?
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Got LE for 2.75% with $2K in lender credit that covered loan costs in full. Better wouldn't match. I think the well is drying up.
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Quote from sleekwallet :
oh cmon just let it go dude, people can make their own comparisons. It might have not worked for you but that doesn't mean that it wont work for others.

I just closed on 2.75% 30y with $4.8K credits with better.com ; crossing fingers on that $2.5K extra
Congratulations. Which location and LTV ?

Did you lock recently ?
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Quote from srp1606 :
Congratulations. Which title company? Location?
I'm in IL and using Ravenswood Title
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Quote from nicemann :
Loan Depot is typically not the cheapest out there. Check a few other sites. They have been posted here a few times. Without knowing all you things like zipcode, credit score, etc it is hard to say.
in california, i was told to check owning and aimloan. i checked both.

loan depot seemed to be best.
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I tried to get Better to beat the 30 year jumbo ($560k owed on $1M house) I have near closing with my credit union (NFCU) at 3.125% / $0 fees / $0 points and they basically said "nope can't do it" and proceeded to quote me their laughably bad online rate sheet at 3.750% with $12K in points.

Are there better jumbo rates out there? I've already paid appraisal here but don't mind putting in the work if I can shave another 1/8th.

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Quote from srp1606 :
Congratulations. Which location and LTV ?

Did you lock recently ?

50% LVT, CA. Locked two weeks ago. Thanks!
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