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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 17, 2020 05:34 PM
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sskumarsdJul 17, 2020 05:34 PM
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Quote from damnyou :
Sebonic and AFM are other two I would try before finalizing with Better if all works out good
any contact from sebonic..thanks.
Jul 17, 2020 05:43 PM
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David9569Jul 17, 2020 05:43 PM
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Quote from sskumarsd :
any contact from sebonic..thanks.
Here is the guy I was working with last week, who was very solid with his communication. Of course their rates weren't particularly competitive last week (he could only offer me 3.0 with no fees), so he might not have been as busy.

Gerson Alejandro​ | Senior Loan Originator | NMLS 689426
Sebonic Financial | NMLS 66247
​9201 Corporate Blvd, Ste 210, Rockville, MD 20850-6521
​Phone/Fax: (980) 321-9709 | sebonic.com
[email protected]
Jul 17, 2020 05:55 PM
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JasonC8362Jul 17, 2020 05:55 PM
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Quote from 575rider :
Currently have 30-year fixed with Chase at 3.375. Is it worth checking with them about refinancing, or should I just start with other companies (LoanCabin, Better, etc.)? Thanks.
Start with other companies. Large banks are rarely competitive against the mortgage brokers.
Jul 17, 2020 06:01 PM
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daw4888Jul 17, 2020 06:01 PM
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So I just got my Closing Disclosure, but still havnt got the request for AMEX number. Should I have gotten this at the same time as my Closing Disclosure?
Jul 17, 2020 06:06 PM
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LetsgogogoJul 17, 2020 06:06 PM
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If you refi'd recently, how do you get the recent statement to better?

If it's a new company, that is.
Jul 17, 2020 06:14 PM
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lovenilJul 17, 2020 06:14 PM
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AFMC is asking for referral to give me a quote for my loan. Anyone with referal who have done business with them. Please PM me your name and location Smilie
Jul 17, 2020 06:28 PM
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TushiJul 17, 2020 06:28 PM
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Quote from tran1981 :
Thanks! Is there origination fee? They came back for 30yr 2.75 ~$2900 lender credit but they have origination fee of $1499.
Yes, same 1499 for me as well; but they are offsetting it with the lender's credit.
I looked at my total out of pocket cost at the end.​

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Jul 17, 2020 06:35 PM
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shahhereJul 17, 2020 06:35 PM
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Quote from lovenil :
AFMC is asking for referral to give me a quote for my loan. Anyone with referal who have done business with them. Please PM me your name and location Smilie

Honestly between this and the "Lock Fee" they are apparently charging I'd drop them from my list as others are not doing any of this shitty stuff lol.


Is their rate good/better than other lenders after fees? I ran my numbers through "Tony C" and was honest about them beating my best offer and the guy simply said it too good to be true and you should take the LoanCabin deal. He kept trying to tell me the Loan Estimate numbers might not be what I said until I sent it to him; he was nice but came off a little curt. If I send him the Watermark offer he'd probably fall off his chair Smilie.



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Jul 17, 2020 06:37 PM
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prs98Jul 17, 2020 06:37 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
Honestly between this and the "Lock Fee" they are apparently charging I'd drop them from my list as others are not doing any of this shitty stuff lol.


Is their rate good/better than other lenders after fees? I ran my numbers through "Tony C" and was honest about them beating my best offer and the guy simply said it too good to be true and you should take the LoanCabin deal. He kept trying to tell me the Loan Estimate numbers might not be what I said until I sent it to him; he was nice but came off a little curt. If I send him the Watermark offer he'd probably fall off his chair .



Shahhere
lol. which offer did you end up with ?
Jul 17, 2020 06:42 PM
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mordotzJul 17, 2020 06:42 PM
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Moving forward with Better, here's my data point..

30-year fixed
2.75% - no points
+$2.5k lender credit
+$2.5k Amex

Used Watermark for my competing LE.
Jul 17, 2020 06:46 PM
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shahhereJul 17, 2020 06:46 PM
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Quote from prs98 :
lol. which offer did you end up with ?

WM quoted me on the phone "no closing cost and upto $3500 in credit". They sent me a $1499 Org Fee and finally after back and forth a $3500 credit.



The problem is thats not what the first statement means; no closing cost is no cost on A & B &C; they cant makeup a new definition as this is essentially just a $2000 credit. I have done a lot of these and even a "True No Closing Cost" loan where I dont bring any money to closing other than the principle amount so they lender even covers the 3-4 month escrows and taxes and I've even had money spill over in the past and that was limited to how much can be given back and the rest was applied towards principle reduction.


If WM honored the $3500 credit without gimmicks; I'd have done the loan with them.


I instead had Better match which they finally did after 2.5 days came back and gave me back $2150 in credit as there are no fees in A&B so with Amex this will be almost a True No closing cost loan refi at 2.75%.


Shahhere
Jul 17, 2020 06:46 PM
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shahhereJul 17, 2020 06:46 PM
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Here is a good read for people to understand how the Hard Pulls affect your Credit:


https://www.thebalance.com/will-m...ore-960544


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Jul 17, 2020 06:54 PM
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yoyospyJul 17, 2020 06:54 PM
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I'm trying to get WaterMark to send me LE.
I was quoted 2.625 over the phone with $3500 lender credit.

But they are taking a long time to respond, any one know a quicker way to get LE to compete with better.com?

Edit: sorry there was some confusion over the phone. The estimate was 2.75 with $3000 lender credit.
Last edited by yoyospy July 17, 2020 at 03:10 PM.
Jul 17, 2020 06:59 PM
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BabyDoll123Jul 17, 2020 06:59 PM
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Quote from tranz :
Moving forward with Better, here's my data point..

30-year fixed
2.75% - no points
+$2.5k lender credit
+$2.5k Amex

Used Watermark for my competing LE.
Who is your concierge?

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Jul 17, 2020 07:00 PM
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BabyDoll123Jul 17, 2020 07:00 PM
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Quote from yoyospy :
I'm trying to get WaterMark to send me LE.
I was quoted 2.625 over the phone with $3500 lender credit.

But they are taking a long time to respond, any one know a quicker way to get LE to compete with better.com?

Guys, what do you do to get such big credit?!

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