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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Jul 21, 2020 09:47 PM
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KaatuPaadiJul 21, 2020 09:47 PM
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Quote from rwerns21 :
Just locked with Better today. I got 3% with $1400 in credits. Should cover the majority of my costs. Title, credit fee, recording fees. 400k loan value 600k Colorado. This was about $5k in fees better than what their default rate was for me. I submitted a similar deal to what I got from Better. But I wasn't going to get the $2500 Amex credit. I did a refi through better in March and they near my submitted deal by $1k, I don't think they do that anymore. I'm using a different Amex for the deal this time, but I've been told you can do it as many times as you want with the same card.
3% is high, when most people are locking in for 2.625 or 2.75

You will be paying upto $80 per month and end up paying 30K at the end of the loan with 3% compared to 2.625. $50 more and 20K for 2.75
Last edited by KaatuPaadi July 21, 2020 at 03:49 PM.
Jul 21, 2020 09:51 PM
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superwalletJul 21, 2020 09:51 PM
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Has anyone closed with Loan Depot? How long does it take to close with them? Thanks.
Jul 21, 2020 09:52 PM
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techoinJul 21, 2020 09:52 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
Alright Guys,

I have a lender that was servicing my loan in 2014 who I had reached out last week to see what they could do as their letter stated that they'd beat any offers out there.

Not having high hopes and even if they beat it I'd figured it was only by a hundred at best but lo and behold they have taken my Better Estimate of -$2150 for 2.75% and are kicking back a really large credit at the same rate and kicking back almost -$6600. The credit is large enough for me to consider this a "True No Closing Cost" loan and not bring any money to close.

Verbally this was unheard of yesterday and I do have a Loan Estimate reflecting that credit and am awaiting the Lender to "Lock" the rate/credit so I can fully share/post the Lender details and here. I highly doubt that others will be able to replicate this deal My 227K loan with 47% LTV and a good Debt to Income and Credit score combined with probably some sort of an exemption by the lender?

I've sent it to Better but don't think they'll come close and think they'll flat out reject the match. I'll post the Lender Info and the Direct Contact to the LO who helped me and she is willing to do similar PriceMatch deals and stated to mention "Shahhere" so she can keep track of the source of this information. I AM NOT GETTING ANY KICKBACKS FYI so proceed at your own will at this point if you do or don't believe me Smilie. I am waiting on a locked LE which was stated to be a few days from Yesterday evening.

Shahhere
Last month I was able to get 2.75% with 1% lender credit. Since then rates have dropped by almost .125% or so. I would say 2.75% with 1.5%-2% credit now should be possible if all stars align. This is almost 3% credit so definitely crazy good but I am guessing they will offset it by high fees. keep us posted.
Jul 21, 2020 10:05 PM
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SiennaDeer8270Jul 21, 2020 10:05 PM
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What is WM? thanks
WM is the ticker for waste management. Tsla is the ticker for Tesla.
Jul 21, 2020 10:18 PM
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shahhereJul 21, 2020 10:18 PM
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Quote from techoin :
Last month I was able to get 2.75% with 1% lender credit. Since then rates have dropped by almost .125% or so. I would say 2.75% with 1.5%-2% credit now should be possible if all stars align. This is almost 3% credit so definitely crazy good but I am guessing they will offset it by high fees. keep us posted.

The LE (All numbers rounded) has A=$0, B=$140,C=$2160,E=$220F=$170,G=$3700 and credit J=-$6600


No other costs that I can see and so far 4 others are getting similar A-G but lower credits in J which is around -$4000-$5000. For the best interest of the community I'll clearly post when I get the Locked Disclosures which I did lock over the phone but don't have in email just yet. As it stands the 3 people who have confirmed is that this new lender is the lowest but no one has a locked document on hand which will matter for the masses.


Shahhere
Jul 21, 2020 10:22 PM
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usainboltJul 21, 2020 10:22 PM
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Quote from JasonC8362 :
Everyone. Sharing the cheapest title insurance vendor found to date but TEXAS ONLY.

https://www.valerotitle.com/

This beats radian and fidelity. My quote was 8% cheaper than radian. IF YOU LIVE IN TEXAS go for it.
Thank you. although I'm confused with all options to get a quote. What is a 50(a)(6), endorsements etc.

Is it better to get a quote via email? If you dont mind can you PM the breakdown?
Jul 21, 2020 10:25 PM
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JasonC8362Jul 21, 2020 10:25 PM
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Quote from usainbolt :
Thank you. although I'm confused with all options to get a quote. What is a 50(a)(6), endorsements etc.

Is it better to get a quote via email? If you dont mind can you PM the breakdown?
Get quote via email. They are truly no hidden fee vendor. They don't leave out things like endorsement etc. no closing fees no attorney fees.

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Jul 21, 2020 10:28 PM
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gk6740Jul 21, 2020 10:28 PM
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Quote from usainbolt :
Thank you. although I'm confused with all options to get a quote. What is a 50(a)(6), endorsements etc.

Is it better to get a quote via email? If you dont mind can you PM the breakdown?
Pretty much ALL quotes are via email.

I did 99% of what I did via email. Apply. Give them all the info they want,even SS#, etc.

Jul 21, 2020 10:28 PM
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TxJDogJul 21, 2020 10:28 PM
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Quote from superwallet :
Has anyone closed with Loan Depot? How long does it take to close with them? Thanks.
I did not close but my loan officer stated it usually takes 45 days.
Jul 21, 2020 10:36 PM
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HarryS4062Jul 21, 2020 10:36 PM
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After having gone through a few refis, I do want to post some info that I think will be useful to understand some things that everyone is seeing: When a lender says their rate is X, that is the general market rate - If you apply and get approved at this rate the lender can sell your loan for sure on the open market though they do not know at the time who will buy the loan.
Now if you do a hard credit check and provide full docs and details that are very specific to you, they will be able to actually float the application on the open market and some investor will likely "pick up" or purchase the loan at better than market prices based on the specifics of what is in the application. Sometimes if there are more than one investor wanting that loan, there is likely to be some bidding allowing for the lender credits to rise and be well over what the market is offering. I think that is why sometime we see extremes in what people get as well as why the lenders usually want you to complete an app in full. Their chance of giving you the best rate increases when they have a full app done.

They may even have investors waiting for certain types of loan applications to come through that are put in a bin (a.k.a MBS) and once the bin is filled up the investor will pick up the entire bin and pay the lender for that bin. So if you are the last loan to fill a bin the lender might just give you that extra credit so they can sell the bin as they will make money only on the entire bin. If the bin is less than half full, your chances of getting better rates are less as they need several more loans to fill the bin.

Investors likely have the ability to select income group (income above centain $), income type (business income, non-business income, etc), credit rating even finer than the 760+ that is generalized, property location, LTV, etc.

These is just my understanding.....not an inside view. We would need a loan originator to really confirm this theory.
Jul 21, 2020 10:38 PM
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msdmoneyJul 21, 2020 10:38 PM
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$280k refinance, california. Our current rate is 3.25 for a 30 year from 2016.

Started with better, the best they could do was 2.75% but that came with $4,500 in points, $5,700 in total A/B/C costs.

Tried to get a quote from owning.com was told they weren't doing refinances less than $350k.

Couldn't get a response from LoanCabin after I submitted the initial application.

Watermark though, offered me 2.5% for a 30 year with 700 in lender credits A/B/C costs are about ~2,500 before the lender credit. I was also considering a 15 year and they sent me 2.125% for a 15 with the same closing and lender credits (though it was less in lender's credits yesterday). Going to go the 30.

Better wouldn't match. I know others have said better will match if you are further in the process, but not worth trying to go further and then hoping they will match later, so we are going to go with Watermark. Not getting the AMEX credit, but better deal overall with the lower rate and lower costs.
Jul 21, 2020 10:42 PM
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JasonC8362Jul 21, 2020 10:42 PM
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Quote from gk6740 :
Pretty much ALL quotes are via email.

I did 99% of what I did via email. Apply. Give them all the info they want,even SS#, etc.
To get baseline price you can try fidelity and get the quote online . They give you upfront quote but you have to select the endorsement fees (otherwise it will appear lower than reality)
Jul 21, 2020 10:43 PM
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mnsweepsJul 21, 2020 10:43 PM
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closed and funded yesterday...
Jul 21, 2020 10:51 PM
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mrhoqueJul 21, 2020 10:51 PM
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I am currently trying to refinance with better.com.. In the final stage.
I locked few weeks ago. I told them interest rate went down. They told me that they cannot re lock the interest rate but if I can get a better offer they will try to match it.

Is there any other online site I can use to get rate so that I can request better to match it?
My loan amount ~220k

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Jul 21, 2020 10:54 PM
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mamakatJul 21, 2020 10:54 PM
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Quote from msdmoney :
$280k refinance, california. Our current rate is 3.25 for a 30 year from 2016.

Started with better, the best they could do was 2.75% but that came with $4,500 in points, $5,700 in total A/B/C costs.

Tried to get a quote from owning.com was told they weren't doing refinances less than $350k.

Couldn't get a response from LoanCabin after I submitted the initial application.

Watermark though, offered me 2.5% for a 30 year with 700 in lender credits A/B/C costs are about ~2,500 before the lender credit. I was also considering a 15 year and they sent me 2.125% for a 15 with the same closing and lender credits (though it was less in lender's credits yesterday). Going to go the 30.

Better wouldn't match. I know others have said better will match if you are further in the process, but not worth trying to go further and then hoping they will match later, so we are going to go with Watermark. Not getting the AMEX credit, but better deal overall with the lower rate and lower costs.
I was just coming on here to ask if anyone's ever received $1,000 from better.com because they couldn't match. Did you receive $1,000 from them? If not, what's the catch there?

also, how long did it take to get that rate from watermark? I finally got a rate from loancabin after 5 days I have basically same stats as you, and they're quoting me 2.625% - now that I know that 2.5 is obtainable that's what I want Smilie
Last edited by mamakat July 21, 2020 at 04:59 PM.

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