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expiredGreenworld123 posted Dec 08, 2019 02:27 PM
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Amex offer: $2,500 statement credit for home refinance Better.com

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Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

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Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.
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Must have an amex to add offer to your account. Details:

Unlock even more as an
American Express® Card Member with an exclusive mortgage offer from Better.com
Better.com is making the homebuying and refinance experiences more rewarding, with a $2,500 statement credit and more, exclusively for eligible Card Members. See offer terms below.

https://www.americanexpress.com/u...-OfferHub2

EDIT information from Better.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I work with Better,com and wanted to see if you could please add in the following information to your post on Amex/Better,com deal as it reads incorrect as it stands, especially regarding eligibility. We want to make sure the offer is stated as accurately as possible:
1) Mortgage rates of any specific customer, stated or otherwise, should not be taken as indicative of a mortgage rate available to all customers. Pricing is based on a number of factors, including the individual credit profile of a potential borrower.
2) The offer is only available to those borrowers who have been marketed to directly by American Express, and those who have not received the offer on their Amex portal or via email are not eligible.

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Aug 06, 2020 02:32 PM
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wj_cmAug 06, 2020 02:32 PM
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
For my first 2 refis, the task showed up just after the initial CD was posted. For my next two, when the task did not show up even after I had got the final CD, I had to ask the closing expert to manually add it and they did so at that time.
How many times did you refi with Better using the Amex promo? Did you use the same card and successfully got the statement credit for every closed refi?
Aug 06, 2020 02:35 PM
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HarryS4062Aug 06, 2020 02:35 PM
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Quote from wj_cm :
How many times did you refi with Better using the Amex promo? Did you use the same card and successfully got the statement credit for every closed refi?
4. 2 Success. 2 waiting still within 10 week period for these.
Aug 06, 2020 02:37 PM
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digdugglerAug 06, 2020 02:37 PM
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Quote from bclintonbj :
I got a text from better on 7/27 that also said

"Hello, this is Jackson with Better Mortgage. I'm reaching out because I wanted to touch base regarding your application with us using the American Express Promotion for a $2,500 statement credit and $550 appraisal voucher. Please do not hesitate to reach out with any questions or concerns."

Somebody is in trouble if amex or better does not honor the $2500 credit after confirming my file is marked with it and advertising with it before rate lock.
Quick update, they called back and somehow I magically got it (after essentially walking away before).
Aug 06, 2020 02:37 PM
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wj_cmAug 06, 2020 02:37 PM
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
4. 2 Success. 2 waiting still within 10 week period for these.
Using the same Amex card? I only have one Amex which I used for the 1st refi with Better. I wanna make sure I don't need to get a second Amex card. Thanks.
Aug 06, 2020 02:40 PM
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Mikey122687Aug 06, 2020 02:40 PM
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Quote from savemybucks :
that gives me hope, was your application AND locking date before the terms changed to $100?
I applied July 23rd lol. Locked rate 8/5.

It was well after the $1000 -> $100 terms changed.

I wasn't expecting the $1000 beat but he did it somehow.
Last edited by Mikey122687 August 6, 2020 at 07:42 AM.
Aug 06, 2020 02:41 PM
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wj_cmAug 06, 2020 02:41 PM
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Quote from Mikey122687 :
I applied July 23rd lol

It was well after the $1000 -> $100 terms changed.

I wasn't expecting the $1000 beat but he did it somehow.
Did they beat it by $1k before or after your locked?
Aug 06, 2020 02:42 PM
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Mikey122687Aug 06, 2020 02:42 PM
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Did they beat it by $1k before or after your locked?
Before

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Aug 06, 2020 02:59 PM
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HarryS4062Aug 06, 2020 02:59 PM
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Quote from wj_cm :
Using the same Amex card? I only have one Amex which I used for the 1st refi with Better. I wanna make sure I don't need to get a second Amex card. Thanks.
Same Amex. I have multiple Amexes but decided to stick with one that had already produced the credit - "the successful one" for all the 4. Now nothing is 100% certain other that the 2 I got already - so I just made sure that in the other 2 my lender credit was sufficient in itself to make it a profitable refi.
Aug 06, 2020 03:25 PM
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BabyDoll123Aug 06, 2020 03:25 PM
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Quote from HarryS4062 :
Same Amex. I have multiple Amexes but decided to stick with one that had already produced the credit - "the successful one" for all the 4. Now nothing is 100% certain other that the 2 I got already - so I just made sure that in the other 2 my lender credit was sufficient in itself to make it a profitable refi.
Sorry if it has been asked already - 4 refi of the same property?
Aug 06, 2020 03:30 PM
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pavan87Aug 06, 2020 03:30 PM
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Quote from shahhere :
Honestly speaking unless you have something outside of normal these Title searches should go without a hitch and the only issues everyone is going to run into will be time delays from Title Company and County Offices.


I for one have had random changes made by me to he Title lol so I am always in the not-so-normal category and except for this time around where Better did not communicate things and was just sitting there along with Radian not sending information correctly and me deciding to change the deed caused almost a 2 week turn around in all of it. If you look up Radian reviews (I just recently did) and you'll see the same thing that their reviews are horrible and many of those reviews have other things going on.



Once of the biggest issues you run into is not the Title company itself but the Notary/Closing Agent that they hire who are freelancers and will either not communicate or will have other delays purely on their end and so tight closings have a potential to become nightmares as many of them book crazy back to back closings as they get paid flat fees to close each one.


Once you decide to go with these low cost Title Companies I'd suggest staying on top and emailing a contact or calling them on a reasonable time frame (2-3 days) to see where the process stands such as Order Placement, titlework search, clear to close from their end to the lender etc...even after that stay on top of them setting up an appointment and finding you a closing agent.


Shahhere
I'm not so worried about the title search as I live in city limits with a lot/block legal description. I'm more so worried about the closing process and them recording the documents and making the payoffs timely. There is a review which states they messed up a payoff and the person paid double interest for 7 days.

I work in commercial real estate and review title commitments and work with title companies almost daily. I can generally feel out good escrow officers pretty quickly.

I reached out to an email address I found for my local Valero office and she sent me a link to their title calculator. It is calculating the discount incorrectly. I emailed her screen shots from their calculator and screen shots from a different calculator (I actually looked at 3 others) and she said they were all just estimates but they have the lowest fees.

The lady from Valero emailed again stating "the credit is off the current amount you will he financing" which is incorrect from what I am seeing elsewhere. I'm concerned that if they do not understand how the credit works, what else are they going to mess up. Also, if they somehow come to closing with the incorrect credit, the difference is actually more than $200 for me, which is what a reputable title company is charging.

While I would like to save $200 for the escrow fee, there seems to be too many red flags for me to use Valero for this transaction.
Aug 06, 2020 03:55 PM
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Alex8919Aug 06, 2020 03:55 PM
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Freddie Mac. Rate are decreased for all term. Today!
Aug 06, 2020 04:06 PM
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usainboltAug 06, 2020 04:06 PM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
Freddie Mac. Rate are decreased for all term. Today!
Hoping it is more than 0.25% for float down
Aug 06, 2020 04:08 PM
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Mikey122687Aug 06, 2020 04:08 PM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
Freddie Mac. Rate are decreased for all term. Today!
Source?
Aug 06, 2020 04:11 PM
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usainboltAug 06, 2020 04:11 PM
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Source?
http://www.freddiemac.com/pmms/

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Aug 06, 2020 04:55 PM
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CycloneFWAug 06, 2020 04:55 PM
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Quote from Alex8919 :
Freddie Mac. Rate are decreased for all term. Today!
Better uses this index for their float policy (regardless of which term your loan is for): https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MORTGAGE30US

With today's update, if you locked your rate June 19th - June 24th, you now qualify for a 0.125% float because the index dropped 0.25%.

** If you applied after June 25th, you do NOT qualify for a float down yet. **

What is unknown is if you got a match after locking, will your original lock date apply or will the Thursday after the match apply?

Also unknown is if you lock on a Thursday. The way it was reported about 30-40 pages ago is the rate on the Thursday after you lock is what is used. But perhaps if you locked on Thursday, that rate is the one used.

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