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Call 1-866-217-4736 from a registered phone and limit Citi selling your information to third parties!

This applies to all Citi cards including cards like Costco issued by Citi.

Remember to ask for a written confirmation in the automated system at the end.


If you don't understand why this is important read the NYT article or below:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/...york-times

There are massive data aggregation companies like Factual and Roam. They pay money to apps to give people your location history and build your profile.

They then buy information from financial institutions to tie it to the places you visited

Then they buy information and match up financial transaction time stamps to anonymized store purchase data (from like free rewards cards) to figure out what you bought.

They also then collect public information about you on age, and other demographics

Then they sell all of this as a package to anyone who will pay for it.

update: for those of you who asked about Chase, you must call: 1-888-868-8618. It requires more information than the Citi system when asked if you are a resident of CA, just say yes and limit additional sharing!

Amex: 1- 855-297-7748
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Dr00pyD0g
12-23-2019 at 04:34 PM.
12-23-2019 at 04:34 PM.
Thanks OP! Took under a minute to complete
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Phaenon
12-23-2019 at 05:17 PM.
12-23-2019 at 05:17 PM.
Quote from Dr00pyD0g :
Thanks OP! Took under a minute to complete
Anytime! Happy to help
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shinyraindrops
12-23-2019 at 05:28 PM.
12-23-2019 at 05:28 PM.
Quote from HunterOne :
Keep in mind that this is a never ending quest as more and more sites develop to do this.
This. I google myself regularly. A few times a year I pop up again and have to opt out of them. Sometimes it's from a company I already opted out of but they start selling my info again. But because I do, most of the time when I google myself the first result is someone who's name is close to mine but not me. I'm a ghost.
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shinyraindrops
12-24-2019 at 11:41 AM.
12-24-2019 at 11:41 AM.
One other thing if people value their privacy, turn off the GPS on your phone. Ever wonder why every random app that shouldn't care about your location asks for permission to access your location? The excuse I read most is to "Help to connect to bluetooth." What?

Apps gathering and then selling your location data is big business. Even a free app makes big money by tracking and then selling your location. The location data brokers say the data is anonymous so it's not a privacy issue. People have shown that with little to no technical skills, that they can take the "anonymous" data and identify who it is in a few minutes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/24/opinion/location-privacy.html
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Kraken09
12-24-2019 at 12:28 PM.
12-24-2019 at 12:28 PM.
Quote from shinyraindrops :
One other thing if people value their privacy, turn off the GPS on your phone. Ever wonder why every random app that shouldn't care about your location asks for permission to access your location? The excuse I read most is to "Help to connect to bluetooth." What?

Apps gathering and then selling your location data is big business. Even a free app makes big money by tracking and then selling your location. The location data brokers say the data is anonymous so it's not a privacy issue. People have shown that with little to no technical skills, that they can take the "anonymous" data and identify who it is in a few minutes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/2...ivacy.html

After seeing this the app asked to access my Bluetooth. Hmmm. Due to me not allowing location they want access to Bluetooth to gain access to my location. They claim it will help in securing safe transactions. Whatever. No thank.
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Scintillation
12-24-2019 at 01:45 PM.
12-24-2019 at 01:45 PM.
OK thanks for the heads up. I just did it for my Citi Credit Card and my Discover credit card. Both were automated systems.

For my Capital One 360 checking, they have me talk to a representative to stop sharing. Unfortunately they are already closed for the holiday. So I will have to call later this week.

This LexisNexis, do you think it's worth limiting that?

Also, in Android 10, I have limited sharing of location data only to apps currently in use, not in the background. That includes Google Maps and other services.
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shinyraindrops
12-24-2019 at 02:48 PM.
12-24-2019 at 02:48 PM.
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This LexisNexis, do you think it's worth limiting that?
This LexisNexis? LexisNexis is probably the largest data seller on the planet. So yes. Yes it's worth limiting that.
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12-25-2019 at 12:32 PM.
12-25-2019 at 12:32 PM.
Quote from shinyraindrops :
This LexisNexis? LexisNexis is probably the largest data seller on the planet. So yes. Yes it's worth limiting that.
Who knows if they actually limit ... Sigh... That's their only revenue stream
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PaCuLard
12-25-2019 at 05:27 PM.
12-25-2019 at 05:27 PM.
Couple of Questions for Those that Know More Than Me:

(1) Regarding The General VISA Opt Out Link Here:

https://usa.visa.com/legal/privac...t-out.html

That webpage refers you to this page to input your specific VISA CC to Opt Out of Visa Marketing Solutions on this page:

https://marketingreportoptout.vis...request.do

This website is discussed a little on this Reddit thread and it appears to be legit (please post if you believe differently).

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/...marketing/

According to the above Reddit thread, there is a companion MasterCard (MC) Opt out webpage where the poster claims the MC Opt Out Option is very misleading. Here is the MC Opt Out Link:

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/a...t-out.html

(Q1) Is the MC Opt Out webpage misleading and should SD users NOT input their CC info here?

(Q2) Did anyone find a link to "Opt Out" for SD popular Visa CCs: (a) Penfed Platinum Rewards and, or (b) Fidelity Signature Visa, (c) Uber Visa (barclay)? If so, please post links and phone numbers.

Thanks in advance!
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PaCuLard
12-25-2019 at 08:40 PM.
12-25-2019 at 08:40 PM.
Excellent 3/2/2019 article:

"Here Are the Data Brokers Quietly Buying and Selling Your Personal Information (PI)"

https://www.fastcompany.com/90310...artner=rss

Illustrates how daunting, if not impossible, iit is to get control of your PI in the US.
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Ztnepres
12-26-2019 at 08:20 AM.
12-26-2019 at 08:20 AM.
Is this for debit or just credit cards?
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kwadguy
12-26-2019 at 08:22 AM.
12-26-2019 at 08:22 AM.
This is Slickdeals.net..

Please move this to TinFoilHats.com
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PaCuLard
12-26-2019 at 08:57 AM.
12-26-2019 at 08:57 AM.
Couple more worthy on-topic articles worth reading:

"How to Opt Out of the Sites That Sell Your Personal Data"

https://www.wired.com/story/opt-o...s-privacy/

This guy (referenced in Wired article above, lists the contact numbers to opt out as well as identiying the REALLY BAD Data Brokers. His list is called:

"Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List"

https://docs.google.com/document/...UMxTM/edit
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n0fx
12-26-2019 at 09:27 AM.
12-26-2019 at 09:27 AM.
Quote from shinyraindrops :
Sift is also a huge data aggregator. I've been warning people about stuff like this for a long time. People respond that they don't care who knows what brand of toothpaste they buy. They should care since it's just not about that. It's about everything you do being in a file. One person who got a dump of the data the aggregators had on them was shocked to find that her messages with her airbnb hosts were part of the file.

Speaking of which, you can now get a dump of all the data they have on you. You can even ask them to delete your file. Thanks California!
How do you get them to dump all the data and verify that it's deleted off their system? Do I need to call every single data aggregator to have them remove me from their systems?
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shinyraindrops
12-26-2019 at 10:51 AM.
12-26-2019 at 10:51 AM.
Quote from Phaenon :
Who knows if they actually limit ... Sigh... That's their only revenue stream
I have no doubt they do. How many people actually ask? Not very many. It's just noise. The truth is that the vast majority of people just don't care.
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