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Last Edited by Phaenon December 21, 2019 at 07:36 PM
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Call 1-866-217-4736 from a registered phone and limit Citi selling your information to third parties!

This applies to all Citi cards including cards like Costco issued by Citi.

Remember to ask for a written confirmation in the automated system at the end.


If you don't understand why this is important read the NYT article or below:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/...york-times

There are massive data aggregation companies like Factual and Roam. They pay money to apps to give people your location history and build your profile.

They then buy information from financial institutions to tie it to the places you visited

Then they buy information and match up financial transaction time stamps to anonymized store purchase data (from like free rewards cards) to figure out what you bought.

They also then collect public information about you on age, and other demographics

Then they sell all of this as a package to anyone who will pay for it.

update: for those of you who asked about Chase, you must call: 1-888-868-8618. It requires more information than the Citi system when asked if you are a resident of CA, just say yes and limit additional sharing!

Amex: 1- 855-297-7748
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shinyraindrops
12-26-2019 at 10:53 AM.
12-26-2019 at 10:53 AM.
Quote from n0fx :
How do you get them to dump all the data and verify that it's deleted off their system? Do I need to call every single data aggregator to have them remove me from their systems?
I already answered. Write them at [email protected].

Pretty much. There's no central clearing house. Although if you hit the big ones, like Lexis, it'll take out some of the smaller ones. Since the smaller ones just resell data they buy from the big ones. But you'll have to at least hit the smaller ones once to clear the cache.
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12-26-2019 at 11:06 AM.
12-26-2019 at 11:06 AM.
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After seeing this the app asked to access my Bluetooth. Hmmm. Due to me not allowing location they want access to Bluetooth to gain access to my location. They claim it will help in securing safe transactions. Whatever. No thank.
Unfortunately turning off GPS is only a short term solution. The future is Chinese. Their present is our future. Even wearing a bag over your head won't help. Part of their AI tech is to identify people by the way we move, not just our faces. The way someone moves is unique. The fact is that in the future, with GPS or not, the corporate government complex will now exactly where everyone is every second of the day.

If anyone is thinking that can't happen here. Various governments in the US have been trying to do this for years, we just couldn't make it work. But now the government can just buy the tech from China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLo3e1Pak-Y
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shinyraindrops
12-26-2019 at 11:12 AM.
12-26-2019 at 11:12 AM.
Quote from PaCuLard :
Couple more worthy on-topic articles worth reading:

"How to Opt Out of the Sites That Sell Your Personal Data"

https://www.wired.com/story/opt-o...s-privacy/

This guy (referenced in Wired article above, lists the contact numbers to opt out as well as identiying the REALLY BAD Data Brokers. His list is called:

"Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List"

https://docs.google.com/document/...UMxTM/edit
Good list. A PITA about this is many of the "background check" sites are run by the same people. Yet you have to opt-out of each website independently.

Also, just because you opt-out once doesn't mean you are opted out forever. I've found that I show up again on some of these sites. That can be cause they stick my middle initial in my name and thus it's a new record or they simply list me again. So you periodically have to check to make sure you aren't back on.
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12-26-2019 at 12:28 PM.
12-26-2019 at 12:28 PM.
Quote from PaCuLard :
Couple more worthy on-topic articles worth reading:

"How to Opt Out of the Sites That Sell Your Personal Data"

https://www.wired.com/story/opt-o...s-privacy/

This guy (referenced in Wired article above, lists the contact numbers to opt out as well as identiying the REALLY BAD Data Brokers. His list is called:

"Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List"

https://docs.google.com/document/...UMxTM/edit
OMG the amount of info some of these people had spent 3 hours filling all the requests
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HunterOne
12-28-2019 at 01:29 PM.
12-28-2019 at 01:29 PM.
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One other thing if people value their privacy, turn off the GPS on your phone. Ever wonder why every random app that shouldn't care about your location asks for permission to access your location? The excuse I read most is to "Help to connect to bluetooth." What?

Apps gathering and then selling your location data is big business. Even a free app makes big money by tracking and then selling your location. The location data brokers say the data is anonymous so it's not a privacy issue. People have shown that with little to no technical skills, that they can take the "anonymous" data and identify who it is in a few minutes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/2...ivacy.html

Here is the complete 7 part series on smartphone location tracking by the New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/interacti...phone.html

At the end of the article you can see the rest of the parts 2-7.
Here is part 2:

https://www.nytimes.com/interacti...-tips.html

Also, you must burn in your brain that a cell phone is NOT a secure device as shown here:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/google-voice/

As stated above, using Google Voice MAY help.
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PaCuLard
12-29-2019 at 09:20 AM.
12-29-2019 at 09:20 AM.
Related on-topic article regarding California's new privacy law and possible relief (hope) for those that live outside of California. Thank you California for your leadership!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/te...700206001/

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shinyraindrops
12-29-2019 at 11:33 AM.
12-29-2019 at 11:33 AM.
Quote from PaCuLard :
Related on-topic article regarding California's new privacy law and possible relief (hope) for those that live outside of California. Thank you California for your leadership!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/te...700206001/
Facebook is already trying to wiggle out of it. It claims that it doesn't sell data, they share it. So they aren't bound by the law.
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PaCuLard
12-29-2019 at 06:27 PM.
12-29-2019 at 06:27 PM.
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Facebook is already trying to wiggle out of it. It claims that it doesn't sell data, they share it. So they aren't bound by the law.
Cross your fingers that this saint is successful!

"Activist Behind California's New Privacy Law Already Wants to Improve It"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/acti...1577615401

Watched some news talk shows where the panel discussed this. Yes the lobbyists are going to try to get nuetered privacy bill thru congress, but none of the experts expect any possibility of bi-partison support for a neutered bill anytime soon especially with a divided congress.

The Experts predicted that other Blue States will follow California's lead and perhaps go further. This could also close down the facebook loophole. If the California Saint, or another state closes down this loophole, it will be tough for facebook to adopt strict Privacy standards that apply to Blue states (only) while having a different standard for the business friendly Red States.

I will definitely be rooting against Facebook, its fat cat lobbyists, and sympathetic allies in this matter!
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shinyraindrops
01-12-2020 at 12:52 PM.
01-12-2020 at 12:52 PM.
Now if the powers that be would do something about doctor's posting our x-rays online without any password protection. Shouldn't someone be enforcing HIPPA?

https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/10/medical-images-exposed-pacs/
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01-14-2020 at 05:17 AM.
01-14-2020 at 05:17 AM.
Why was this marked as Expired? It is a PSA, and cannot expire.

Mods, please fix this.
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