Motul 8100 X-Clean EFE 5w30 synthetic motor oil - $31.99 @Amazon

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01-06-2020 at 11:58 AM #2

Not bad for 100% snythnic oil.

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01-06-2020 at 12:18 PM #3

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Amazon has Motul 8100 X-Clean EFE 5w30 synthetic motor oil on sale for $32. My turbo vehicle takes 5.5 qts so I paired this with the smaller 1qt bottle @$11.68 for a grand total of $82 shipped with tax. I already get a pretty good deal on this stuff, $45 per oil change ($90 for the 2 + 1 combo, tax & shipping incl.) from a race shop in NJ, so this way I'm saving another $8, which is $41 per change. I buy my WIX filters in bulk from RockAuto.

Why don't you buy 11 bottles for 10 cheaper oil changes.

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01-06-2020 at 01:03 PM #4

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Why don't you buy 11 bottles for 10 cheaper oil changes.

Didn't feel like spending hundreds of dollars on motor oil at the moment. lol

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01-06-2020 at 01:48 PM #5

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Not bad for 100% snythnic oil.

Unless I'm missing something - and I may very well be - this isn't slick at all. Is there any evidence that this oil is somehow superior to the high-end, 100% synthetics from reputable companies?

PUP is my go-to, and it likely doesn't make much difference in 90% of the cars that use it (mine included). I haven't paid more than $12-13 for a 5-quart jug in years (rebates, of course), so I can't fathom spending 2.5x that for a product that doesn't do anything special.

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01-06-2020 at 03:11 PM #6

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Unless I'm missing something - and I may very well be - this isn't slick at all. Is there any evidence that this oil is somehow superior to the high-end, 100% synthetics from reputable companies?

PUP is my go-to, and it likely doesn't make much difference in 90% of the cars that use it (mine included). I haven't paid more than $12-13 for a 5-quart jug in years (rebates, of course), so I can't fathom spending 2.5x that for a product that doesn't do anything special.

For my particular car, yes. You'd have to look into testing done for your specific vehicle to know if this is the best option.

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01-06-2020 at 03:16 PM #7

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Unless I'm missing something - and I may very well be - this isn't slick at all. Is there any evidence that this oil is somehow superior to the high-end, 100% synthetics from reputable companies?

PUP is my go-to, and it likely doesn't make much difference in 90% of the cars that use it (mine included). I haven't paid more than $12-13 for a 5-quart jug in years (rebates, of course), so I can't fathom spending 2.5x that for a product that doesn't do anything special.

I'm with you in this. I think regular changes (I stick to mobil 1, pennzoil ultra platinum, Napa full synthetic, Quaker state full synthetic- basically anything on sale/with rebate that comes out to about $12-15 per 5qt) and regular checks are more important than getting the best possible.
I do understand that some want the best of the best and I think it's fine too but not that "slick" IMO.
I got previously on sale for $20 Idemitsu Zepro 0w-20 eco medalist with Moly to try out and even visually it wasn't as dark after 7K in my Civic engine (city miles, NOT highway) as M1 but now that price on it is $37 there's no way I would spend that much so I'm sure on some engines especially with turbos it does make a difference but not sure if it's worth the money for some.

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01-06-2020 at 08:33 PM #8

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I'm with you in this. I think regular changes (I stick to mobil 1, pennzoil ultra platinum, Napa full synthetic, Quaker state full synthetic- basically anything on sale/with rebate that comes out to about $12-15 per 5qt) and regular checks are more important than getting the best possible.
I do understand that some want the best of the best and I think it's fine too but not that "slick" IMO.
I got previously on sale for $20 Idemitsu Zepro 0w-20 eco medalist with Moly to try out and even visually it wasn't as dark after 7K in my Civic engine (city miles, NOT highway) as M1 but now that price on it is $37 there's no way I would spend that much so I'm sure on some engines especially with turbos it does make a difference but not sure if it's worth the money for some.

Not all oils are made the same. Mobil 1 is notorious for spinning bearings on my platform due to how thin it is.

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01-07-2020 at 01:51 PM #9

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Not all oils are made the same. Mobil 1 is notorious for spinning bearings on my platform due to how thin it is.

I completely agree that for different applications there are different oils AND viscosity. Most newer engines especially Japanese design are being made to be run on thinner viscosity to increase MPG and decrease emissions (less inner resistance for moving parts) which is mandated by government so it's not like they have a lot of choice. Some newest engines are being run on 0w-16 which is even thinner than 0w-20. What kind of long run impact it will cause to the engine remains to be seen but it's thinner than 5W-30 for sure.

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01-07-2020 at 02:05 PM #10

Yeah, that's not how spinning bearings works. Unless Mobil 1 somehow has a grossly incorrect viscosity rating, which they would have a class action lawsuit in progress for, then the fake thinness you're talking about would have nothing to do with they bearings failing from lack of lubrication. Or all the oils of the same viscosity would have the same issue.

Mobil 1 is not inherently thin, nor is it poor-performing oil. If it was as thin as you claimed, there would be multiple platforms affected by this. Since there is not, its likely due to a combination of owner's poor decisions and the lubrication design itself.

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01-07-2020 at 09:31 PM #11

When I click on the link the price comes up as $37.31.

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01-08-2020 at 01:04 PM #12

Why do so many people obsess over which motor oil they put in their engine? Most cars are just not that special. Use the mfgr spec recommendation, change it as frequently as needed, and stop obsessing. I used conventional motor oil for hundreds of thousands of miles until the internet told me I had to use synthetic. And not just any synthetic, "real" pure synthetic. 🙄 And then all my engines would stop blowing up.

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01-08-2020 at 06:06 PM #13

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Why do so many people obsess over which motor oil they put in their engine? Most cars are just not that special. Use the mfgr spec recommendation, change it as frequently as needed, and stop obsessing. I used conventional motor oil for hundreds of thousands of miles until the internet told me I had to use synthetic. And not just any synthetic, "real" pure synthetic. 🙄 And then all my engines would stop blowing up.

Probably because thats one of the only thing that the average amateurish user can change to your car. The only reason I'd go with full synth is because I can go for longer (5k miles or 6 months) between oil change vs. going with conventional. Project Farm had a video where he dump a bunch of oil of different viscosity, brands, conventional and synth and run his car for a couple months. The oil analysis seems fine from the lab. Not recommended. but I think it's more important that you change the oil and filter periodically vs. how "purely synthetic" it is (mostly marketing).

My buying price for synthetic motor oil is about $10-14 per 5 qt., and I usually stock up from clearance and rebate deals.

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01-08-2020 at 06:16 PM #14

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Why do so many people obsess over which motor oil they put in their engine? Most cars are just not that special. Use the mfgr spec recommendation, change it as frequently as needed, and stop obsessing. I used conventional motor oil for hundreds of thousands of miles until the internet told me I had to use synthetic. And not just any synthetic, "real" pure synthetic. 🙄 And then all my engines would stop blowing up.

Ok boomer

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01-08-2020 at 06:37 PM #15

Good price for this oil.
I'm still on the Brotella T6 train though - lots of oil analysis for my car on the web with good results. Many high powered modded cars running it for years.

I guess if you're racing the car, AMSOIL, Motul and Redline are some of the premium brands to use.

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