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dejeckt
03-11-2020 at 03:10 PM.
03-11-2020 at 03:10 PM.
Would jump on it but really, really wish ram was 32 gb. I mean most of the time 16 gb is more than enough, but since I want to get developing utilizing multiple containers/virtual machines want to stay safe and get 32gb. However there is a 400ish price difference from getting this one or going for a custom build.
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Mydiscover
03-11-2020 at 03:15 PM.
03-11-2020 at 03:15 PM.
prices will go down further... Just be patient
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Kensic
03-11-2020 at 03:46 PM.
03-11-2020 at 03:46 PM.
Quote from dejeckt :
Would jump on it but really, really wish ram was 32 gb. I mean most of the time 16 gb is more than enough, but since I want to get developing utilizing multiple containers/virtual machines want to stay safe and get 32gb. However there is a 400ish price difference from getting this one or going for a custom build.
yea the 32gb ram is definitely more useful than i9 upgrade.
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IndigoWinter5520
03-11-2020 at 08:19 PM.
03-11-2020 at 08:19 PM.
So this means i7 base model will be $1900 pretty soon
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daviddang
03-12-2020 at 11:41 AM.
03-12-2020 at 11:41 AM.
Is it true that 32gb ram is one CTO? does that mean we'll never see a great third party sale on them? Apple doesn't do significant price drops
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loaferz
03-12-2020 at 12:21 PM.
03-12-2020 at 12:21 PM.
Quote from daviddang :
Is it true that 32gb ram is one CTO? does that mean we'll never see a great third party sale on them? Apple doesn't do significant price drops

Adorama did $300 price drops on the 32gb back in December. That plus no tax saved me like $600
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tschwicht
03-12-2020 at 12:42 PM.
03-12-2020 at 12:42 PM.
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If you can afford it, get the 64gb memory. You would suprised how much of a hog OSX can be if it can use the memory.

I have 10 chrome browsers open, slack, imessage, outlook, some random small programs, and tidal running now.

I'm using 24GB , with 5GB cached, and 11 in Swap (probably final cut pro X as I go in and out of it).

That means its using 40GB of memory right now. When I go video editing its sitting around 55-60GB , so it has headroom.
macOS will use as much ram as you have available (until you get into the 64gb range like you are). It must top out around there. With the same general things you run, it maxes out 8 and 16gb for me with not really much performance difference. It's going ot use whatever it can.

Most general users (like your usecase above) aren't going to notice any difference in performance between 8, 16, 32, and 64gb. At least not on a new model. But macOS will definitely use it if it's available.

Editing/Containers/etc. you're going to see a difference though. 16gb is still going to be enough for many. You'd need a real special use case for 64gb. It's a very low percentage of users who could maximize 64gb. There is always future proofing but it's for such a small % of users, less than 1% probably need it.
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Saphronz
03-12-2020 at 12:58 PM.
03-12-2020 at 12:58 PM.
Quote from kamiraa :
If you can afford it, get the 64gb memory. You would suprised how much of a hog OSX can be if it can use the memory.

I have 10 chrome browsers open, slack, imessage, outlook, some random small programs, and tidal running now.

I'm using 24GB , with 5GB cached, and 11 in Swap (probably final cut pro X as I go in and out of it).

That means its using 40GB of memory right now. When I go video editing its sitting around 55-60GB , so it has headroom.
Maybe you don't know how RAM management works.
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kamiraa
03-12-2020 at 01:14 PM.
03-12-2020 at 01:14 PM.
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macOS will use as much ram as you have available (until you get into the 64gb range like you are). It must top out around there. With the same general things you run, it maxes out 8 and 16gb for me with not really much performance difference. It's going ot use whatever it can.

Most general users (like your usecase above) aren't going to notice any difference in performance between 8, 16, 32, and 64gb. At least not on a new model. But macOS will definitely use it if it's available.

Editing/Containers/etc. you're going to see a difference though. 16gb is still going to be enough for many. You'd need a real special use case for 64gb. It's a very low percentage of users who could maximize 64gb. There is always future proofing but it's for such a small % of users, less than 1% probably need it.
We notice a pretty big difference between 32gb and 64gb. We have 23 Macbook Pros in house, we have been testing 32GB to 64GB from various team members (late 2019s). If you don't have the memory its swapping constantly and it lags a lot for our engineers and designers.

If you're just doing facebook and email, go with 16gb, if you're editing or coding get 64gb. It's worth the price upgrade.

I just ordered another 64gb for a new employee since I last posted, it's painful because its like $800 more than this one here but it is what it is . . . time is money and if the design team is showing me lags on their machine or stalls multiple times a day that cost over a few years for the time savings and hassle is worth it.
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tschwicht
03-12-2020 at 01:35 PM.
03-12-2020 at 01:35 PM.
Quote from kamiraa :
We notice a pretty big difference between 32gb and 64gb. We have 23 Macbook Pros in house, we have been testing 32GB to 64GB from various team members (late 2019s). If you don't have the memory its swapping constantly and it lags a lot for our engineers and designers.

If you're just doing facebook and email, go with 16gb, if you're editing or coding get 64gb. It's worth the price upgrade.

I just ordered another 64gb for a new employee since I last posted, it's painful because its like $800 more than this one here but it is what it is . . . time is money and if the design team is showing me lags on their machine or stalls multiple times a day that cost over a few years for the time savings and hassle is worth it.
I hear you. For coding unless you're using a lot of containers/VMs you can get away with 16gb easily. I did development work for a few years and 16gb was always good. Depending on what I was doing I could get away with 8gb a lot of the time, but it was mostly web development. For the general facebooker/email/ms word/spotify user 8gb is truly enough.

But I can see for your teams needing that headroom. You've obviously put time and thought into the ROI of the faster machines and what lag costs you, so it's likely worth it for you. Nothing wrong with that. You're probably aware that macOS will max out as much ram as you give it up to a certain level, even sometimes just running chrome.

My comments were more directed at those not in your use case, which is still a small percentage of all mac users. But I'm definitely not ragging on your thoughts or saying it's not worth it in your case! It's like all the people that bash mac's hardware to cost. It's not worth it to everyone to pay the premium, but it definitely is worth it to many to have less time troubleshooting, fixing, less build quality/etc in both sanity and real dollars.
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SethBrogan
03-12-2020 at 02:40 PM.
03-12-2020 at 02:40 PM.
Got this deal a few days ago (Same seller) - arrived in brand new box very quickly (2 day ship time) - didn't pay tax either. Good deal and fast shipping!
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