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Siemens FS140 FirstSurge Pro 140kA Whole House Surge Protection Device $160

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Amazon has the Siemens FS140 Whole House Surge Protector for $160 with free shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013WINMK6

$160 matches the lowest price at Amazon ever. Here is a thread from when it was $199 a year ago.
https://slickdeals.net/e/12989788-siemens-fs140-whole-house-surge-protection-device-rated-for-140-000-amps-199

Home Depot has it for the same price.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sieme.../206560230

The reviews at Amazon average 4.7/5 stars and the reviews at Home Depot average 4.9/5 stars. Here is a bit more comprehensive review.
https://gagthesurge.com/siemens-fs140-review/
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Amazon has the Siemens FS140 Whole House Surge Protector for $160 with free shipping.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013WINMK6

$160 matches the lowest price at Amazon ever. Here is a thread from when it was $199 a year ago.
https://slickdeals.net/e/12989788-siemens-fs140-whole-house-surge-protection-device-rated-for-140-000-amps-199

Home Depot has it for the same price.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sieme.../206560230

The reviews at Amazon average 4.7/5 stars and the reviews at Home Depot average 4.9/5 stars. Here is a bit more comprehensive review.
https://gagthesurge.com/siemens-fs140-review/

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Apr 17, 2020 09:05 PM
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JTmoniezApr 17, 2020 09:14 PM
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Quote from supremeMilo :
140kA is overkill in almost all instances.
Any recommendations on something similar? In the market for one
Apr 17, 2020 11:28 PM
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crazyalApr 17, 2020 11:28 PM
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You probably need an Electrician to install it?
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Apr 17, 2020 11:30 PM
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jlewis99Apr 17, 2020 11:30 PM
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Quote from supremeMilo :
140kA is overkill in almost all instances.
Depends... This is for lightning Amps and they can be even more!
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Apr 17, 2020 11:31 PM
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eeksterApr 17, 2020 11:31 PM
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Quote from crazyal :
You probably need an Electrician to install it?
If you are asking then yes
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jlewis99Apr 17, 2020 11:32 PM
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Quote from JTmoniez :
Any recommendations on something similar? In the market for one
I ended up installing this a few years back:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton.../207093234
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slatelsnarpApr 18, 2020 12:28 AM
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Quote from jlewis99 :
Depends... This is for lightning Amps and they can be even more!
Nothing protects against a direct strike, short of maybe a large steel beam like those used in some commercial buildings. Lightning currents can last for many milliseconds.

Lightning currents range up to 100,000+ Amperes. I wonder if the rating is related to the lightning flash that causes the transient they are trying to protect against?

Look at the connection wires, maybe #12 wire because they recommend a dual 20A breaker for protection.

All of these types of whole home protection are trying to keep very fast high voltage spikes on the lines to the home from damaging home equipment, duration of nano seconds to microseconds. Any longer duration, and those connection wires would be vaporized, instantly.
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sergiomakrisApr 18, 2020 12:43 AM
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Quote from slatelsnarp :
Nothing protects against a direct strike, short of maybe a large steel beam like those used in some commercial buildings. Lightning currents can last for many milliseconds.

Lightning currents range up to 100,000+ Amperes. I wonder if the rating is related to the lightning flash that causes the transient they are trying to protect against?

Look at the connection wires, maybe #12 wire because they recommend a dual 20A breaker for protection.

All of these types of whole home protection are trying to keep very fast high voltage spikes on the lines to the home from damaging home equipment, duration of nano seconds to microseconds. Any longer duration, and those connection wires would be vaporized, instantly.
I've seen them burnt to a crisp. However, in burning up probably saved in home electrics.
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LivelyDime870Apr 18, 2020 03:00 AM
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Quote from Confolrm :
fakespot gives this a 1.5 stars with a D rating
oh yea. Siemens is not trustworthy at all.
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BizarrohApr 18, 2020 05:59 AM
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Serious question, I currently live in a place that does not have grounded wires throughout the house. It is a fairly large and old place with old fiberglass type wires. Eventually I will upgrade the wiring, but probably not for another year, I am curious if something like this would benefit me. I would definitely have to get a professional to install as I am not comfortable with electricity. Seen too many electrical arc vids.

I appreciate any assistance. If you could assist me with some light reading that would be great as well.

Thank you!
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Quote from Confolrm :
fakespot gives this a 1.5 stars with a D rating
Fakespot is fake at this point and not trustworthy. Nobody cares about their ratings anymore.
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Quote from Bizarroh :
Serious question, I currently live in a place that does not have grounded wires throughout the house. It is a fairly large and old place with old fiberglass type wires. Eventually I will upgrade the wiring, but probably not for another year, I am curious if something like this would benefit me. I would definitely have to get a professional to install as I am not comfortable with electricity. Seen too many electrical arc vids.

I appreciate any assistance. If you could assist me with some light reading that would be great as well.

Thank you!
No, this won't take the place of a grounding wire. If you're worried, you can for now, replace your receptacles with a GFCI ones. Those will cut power to that receptacles when it senses a fault so it won't cause your appliances to shock you or worse.
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JamesqApr 18, 2020 10:19 AM
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Quote from Bizarroh :
Serious question, I currently live in a place that does not have grounded wires throughout the house. It is a fairly large and old place with old fiberglass type wires. Eventually I will upgrade the wiring, but probably not for another year, I am curious if something like this would benefit me. I would definitely have to get a professional to install as I am not comfortable with electricity. Seen too many electrical arc vids.

I appreciate any assistance. If you could assist me with some light reading that would be great as well.

Thank you!
This will work as a surge protector if you have space in your beaker box.


Quote from iDroid :
No, this won't take the place of a grounding wire. If you're worried, you can for now, replace your receptacles with a GFCI ones. Those will cut power to that receptacles when it senses a fault so it won't cause your appliances to shock you or worse.
GFCI dump to ground when tripped, the switch hot out to ground when tripped so that any surge in the hot wire will take the path of least resistance to ground through the ground wire.
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